The Greek Quote Thread

[Brian K. Mitchell]

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Μέγιστον τόπος.

ἅπαντα γαρ χωρεί.

Diogenes Laertius, Lives of the Philosophers, book 1, chapter 35

This quote is attributed to Thales of Miletus (Θαλής ο Μιλήσιος) who lived from 624/623  – c. 548/545 BC (640 ή 624 π.Χ. Μίλητος, Ιωνία - 546 π.Χ.)

 

Here is brief glossary/Parsing info:

μέγιστον is a singular adjective neuter vocative form of μέγας meaning great

τόπος is a singular mainline noun with the meaning of location or place or space

ἅπαντα from the adjective ἅπας meaning all together / everything

γάρ is a conjunction used alone or with other Particles meaning 'for', since', 'but', 'because'

χώρει is a singular verb present indicative active transitive 2nd or 3rd person form of χωρεω meaning contain 

 

Edited April 13 by Brian K. Mitchell
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[Brian K. Mitchell]

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Το αποδημείν εί αρίστη παιδεία

The greatest education is being aboard (the act of traveling).

Traveling/the journey is the prefect education.

 

Το is the definite article

αποδημείν is a contrastive present active infinitive verb with the meaning being or going on journey

εί this looks like it the subjunctive meaning  'if', but it is more likely a present indicative form of  εἶμι  (will go) or εἰμί (to be)

αρίστη is a feminine singular adjective (can be dative, vocative, and nominative) it means best or perfect

παιδεία is a feminine singular noun (it can be vocative or nominative) meaning education or raising children

 

Today's quote is a famous saying/proverb, and unfortunately no one knows who first said it.

 

[Brian K. Mitchell]

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Χάριν λαβών μέμνησο και δους επιλαθού

attributed to Μένανδρος (Menander)

Χάριν is a singular feminine accusative noun meaning grace / favor

λαβών is the singular masculine aorist active participle nominative case version of λαμβάνω meaning to receive or take

μέμνησο is 2nd person singular prefect imperative meaning to remember /recall

και means 'and' but you already knew that

δους is a form you might not know but it comes from a lemma all Biblical Greek students know: δίδωμι to give

επιλαθού is 2nd person singular present or aorist imperative verb form of ἐπιλανθάνομαι meaning to forget.

 

 

[Brian K. Mitchell]

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Λύκος δοράν οιός περιβεβλημένος

Λύκος is a singular masculine noun meaning wolf

δοράν is a plural feminine noun in the genitive case meaning skins of or hides of

οιός is a singular masculine/feminine noun is the genitive case meaning ram/sheep

περιβεβλημένος comes from a Greek lemma every student knows περιβάλλω. It is a singular masculine prefect participle. It has a range of meaning but it here is probably means to throw something around one's self.

 

This is a famous saying from Αίσωπος (Aesop)

[Brian K. Mitchell]

Before you copy, paste, and search for this verse first try to read it and see if you can guess which book of the Bible is being quoted. Hint: the following is taken from Accordance Bible Software's Alfred Rahlfs LXX module:

 

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Τίς αὕτη ἡ ἀναβαίνουσα ἀπὸ τῆς ἐρήμου
    ὡς στελέχη καπνοῦ τεθυμιαμένη
    σμύρναν καὶ λίβανον ἀπὸ πάντων κονιορτῶν μυρεψοῦ;

 

The following parsing information is taken from Accordance Bible Software's instant parsing tool:

 

Τίς    Pronoun (interrogative) feminine singular nominative who? what? why?
αὕτη    Pronoun (demonstrative) feminine singular nominative    this, this one, he
ἡ    Article feminine singular nominative    the, who, which
ἀναβαίνουσα    Verb present active participle feminine singular nominative    to go up, rise up, advance
ἀπὸ    Preposition (+genitive)    (+gen) from, by, since
τῆς    Article feminine singular genitive    the, who, which
ἐρήμου  Noun feminine singular genitive (common)    (f) desolate; wilderness, desert
ὡς    Conjunction subordinating    as, like, while, that; (interjection) how!
στελέχη    Noun neuter plural nominative (common)    trunk, branch; stump
καπνοῦ    Noun masculine singular genitive (common)    smoke
τεθυμιαμένη  Verb perfect passive participle feminine singular nominative    to burn incense
σμύρναν    Noun feminine singular accusative (common)    myrrh
καὶ    Conjunction coordinating    and, also, even, and yet, but
λίβανον    Noun masculine singular accusative (common)    frankincense
ἀπὸ    Preposition (+genitive)    (+gen) from, by, since
πάντων    Adjective masculine plural genitive noDegree (intensive)    all, every; the whole
κονιορτῶν    Noun masculine plural genitive (common)    (m) dust, dustcloud
μυρεψοῦ    Noun masculine singular genitive (common) perfumer

[Brian K. Mitchell]

Here is a short but famous Classical Greek saying you may have heard in English:

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" Παν Μέτρον άριστον "

Attributed to (Cleobulus of rhodes) or Ο Κλεόβουλος (6ος αιώνας π.Χ. - βρισκόταν στη ζωή τουλάχιστον έως το 560 π.Χ.)

 

πάν is a masculine singular noun found throughout the Greek NT meaning:  "all" or "everything"

Μέτρον  (this word is found about 14 times in the Greek New Testament)

It is a neuter singular noun that can be accusative, nominative, or vocative. Its Strong's index number is

3358. It means "measure" or "moderation" 

άριστον (ἅριστος) is a singular masculine nominative adjective meaning: "best"

[Brian K. Mitchell]

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Κάλλιστον κόσμος, ποίημα γαρ θεού.

The Universe is awesome because it's God's creation!

Ο Θαλής ο Μιλήσιος (Thales of Miletus)

640 ή 624 π.Χ. Μίλητος, Ιωνία - 546 π.Χ.

 

Κάλλιστον  is the neuter form of the superlative adjective "κάλλιστος" (kállistos), which means "most beautiful" or "best."

 

κόσμος is a Greek noun that means "world" or "universe" in English. Grammatically, it is masculine in gender and can take different forms depending on its role in a sentence, such as nominative, accusative, genitive, etc.

 

ποίημα is a Greek noun that means "workmanship", "creation", or "poem" in English. It is neuter in gender.

 

γαρ  is a Greek particle used in ancient Greek and Koine Greek. It's commonly translated as "for" or "indeed" in English. Grammatically, it serves as a conjunction or a particle that connects clauses, providing an explanation, justification, or reason for what was said before. It doesn't inflect like nouns or verbs, so it doesn't have different forms.

 

θεού is a Greek noun that means "of God" in English. Grammatically, it is in the genitive case, which typically indicates possession or relationship. In this form, it shows possession or association with the noun it modifies. In this case, "θεού" indicates possession by or association with God.

 

 

[A.D. Riddle]

On 1/25/2023 at 11:56 PM, Brian K. Mitchell said:

This quote is attributed to Thales of Miletus…

ἀπάντα is a singular Present Active Imperative 2nd Person form

Going back a few months: I don't believe ἀπάντα is a verb.

 

A.D.

[Brian K. Mitchell]

31 minutes ago, A.D. Riddle said:

Going back a few months: I don't believe ἀπάντα is a verb.

 

@A.D. Riddle

 Thank you for catching my blunder! One, you are correct this is not a verb it is an adjective, and Two, the accent marks on ἀπάντα are probably erroneous it probably should have been ἅπαντα.

 

άπαντα  (is a noun)

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/άπαντα

 

 απαντά (from απαντάω is a verb)

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/απαντάω

 

ἅπαντα (from ἅπας is a compound word which is an adjective)

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ἅπας#Ancient_Greek

https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0072:entry=a(/pas

 

[Brian K. Mitchell]

Try and guess what the mystery Greek phrase below is.

HINT: this is a phrase you will see in Biblical Studies and or Textual Criticism :

ἅπαξ λεγόμενον

[Brian K. Mitchell]

 

Original Greek:

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Σόλων γάρ που εἶπε—

γηράσκω δʼ αἰεὶ πολλὰ διδασκόμενος

 

Plato, “Platonis Opera, Ed. John Burnet” (Medford, MA: Oxford University Press, 1903).

 

Parsing according to ChatGPT:

Σόλων (Solon) - Proper noun, the name of the ancient Athenian statesman and lawmaker.

γάρ - Particle indicating cause or explanation, often translated as "for."

που - Particle indicating emphasis or assertion, often translated as "indeed" or "certainly." εἶπε - Verb, aorist indicative active, "he said" or "he spoke." — - Dash indicating a quotation or direct speech.

γηράσκω - Verb, present indicative active, "I grow old" or "I am aging."

δʼ - Conjunction δέ, indicating contrast or continuation, often translated as "and" or "but."

αἰεὶ - Adverb, "always" or "ever."

πολλὰ - Adjective, accusative neuter plural, "many" or "much."

διδασκόμενος - Verb, present middle or passive participle, nominative masculine singular, "being taught" or "learning."

 

English Translation:

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as Solon said,

I grow old learning ever more and more;

Plato, Plato in Twelve Volumes Translated by W.R.M. Lamb., vol. 8 (Medford, MA: Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd., 1955).

[Brian K. Mitchell]

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Εκ λόγου άλλος εκβαίνει λόγος

Out of one word come another word. (or)

From one thing comes another 

Ευριπίδης, 480-406 BC

 From Ancient Greek Tragedian Euripedes' Trojan Women

 

Although the above is classic Greek all the vocabulary can be found LXX and Greek New Testament.

If any of the vocabulary in the above quote is unfamilary that is not a problem for those with Accordance Bible Software. Each word can be cut and past into Accordance's search entry box and found in whatever greek lexicon or Greek text you have. 

 

ἐκ = Preposition (+genitive) (adjunct) (+gen) of, out of, from  

Occurs about 914 times in NT

 

λόγου = Noun masculine plural accusative

This inflected form Occurs 23 times in the NT with the meaning word, speech, message, logic, argument; book, volume

 

άλλος = adjective, nomitive, singular 

in this form doesn't appear in the NT but ἄλλος does occure some 26 times in the NT with the meaning another, one, moreover.

 

εκβαίνει =  Verb third singular present active indicative 

this form appears in the LXX at Ecclesiasticus/Sira 30:08 & 38:18. In the NT this lexme usually often shows up as εκβαινω with the meaning to go out

 

λόγος = Noun masculine singular nominative 

This form occurs around 68 time in the NT with the meaning word, speech, message, argument; book, volume