blgriffin83 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I've noticed that the dagesh on the final chaf is hidden or very hard to see on the final chaf in ויחנך (image attached). Is there perhaps another font option for the Hebrew that would change that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbcvida Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I would like to search for any final kaphs that have a dagesh - for life of me cannot figure out a search string for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Allison Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 12 hours ago, blgriffin83 said: I've noticed that the dagesh on the final chaf is hidden or very hard to see on the final chaf in ויחנך (image attached). Is there perhaps another font option for the Hebrew that would change that? It would be awesome to be able to change the display font for Hebrew and Greek texts. That's never been a feature of Accordance, and at this point, I doubt it ever will be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan S Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 @blgriffin83, what Hebrew Bible are you using? All of my Hebrew Bibles display it correctly. Perhaps you need to update your Bibles? Or perhaps this is a bug. Doesn't seem like it would be a bug, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Allison Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I'm having the same font issue. I've selected "Clean Up Installed Fonts" when launching in safe mode, but it didn't fix the issue. This image is from the HMT-W4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael J. Bolesta Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 @Jordan S I see the same phenomenon as @blgriffin83 in HMT-W4. I see the correct rendering in BHS-T, MT-AFD, MT-ETCBC, MT-ETCBC-A. Accordance for Mac 14.0.9, macOS Sonoma 14.3.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan S Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I see. Looks like you guys are probably running HMT-W4 (Version 2.2) with Westminster v. 4.20. I can confirm that it is wrong on my other laptop that is running version 2.2. On this laptop, I'm running HMT-W4 (Version 3.0) with Westminster v. 4.22. I thought that was supposed to be released nearly a year and a half ago when I still worked for Accordance. This was an update to the morphology and other miscellaneous fixes (like this, I'm guessing) which I can't recall. @David Lang? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Allison Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 4 minutes ago, Jordan S said: thought that was supposed to be released nearly a year and a half ago SMH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael J. Bolesta Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 @Jordan S you are correct. I have version 2.2 of HMT-W4. Version 3.0 does not show up in Check for Content Updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael J. Bolesta Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 @Dr. Nathan Parker perhaps you can check on the release of version 3.0 of HMT-W4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nathan Parker Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I'll check. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accord Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 3 hours ago, Dr. Nathan Parker said: I'll check. We've been waiting for a response from David for more than six months now regarding the release of version 3.0 HMT-W4. This version 3.0 has came up in several other threads on the forum. So, good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nathan Parker Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I've also asked management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accordance Enthusiast Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 13 hours ago, Mark Allison said: It would be awesome to be able to change the display font for Hebrew and Greek texts. That's never been a feature of Accordance, and at this point, I doubt it ever will be. Please @Dr. Nathan Parker could you add this to a to-do list? I love this feature in Logos and miss it in Accordance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accordance Enthusiast Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 14 hours ago, mbcvida said: I would like to search for any final kaphs that have a dagesh - for life of me cannot figure out a search string for this Would also like to know how to do this - I can do searches with and without the Dagesh but how to force a final letter only search? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Allison Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I would think this would work to find a final kaph with a dagesh. But it doesn't. Maybe @David Lang or @Jordan S know a way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan S Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 @Mark Allison, what you suggested will find a kaph that is the final letter in a lexeme in a "word search." You are having difficulty because pronominal suffixes are not treated as lexemes in Accordance, and also the "Letters" search only searches for consonants. I believe you are only going to find this using the tag: [SUFFIX second masc sing energicNun]. This suffix generally occurs with yiqtol verbs (79 out of 90; participle 4x's; Wayyiqtol 3x's; InfConst 3x's; and qatal 1x). See Lambdin, §192: Object Suffixes on the Imperfect. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Allison Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 4 minutes ago, Jordan S said: "Letters" search only searches for consonants Whoops. I forgot that. Thanks for the reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nathan Parker Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 @Accordance Enthusiast Does this work for you or do I need to file something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Simpson Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Even using Jordan's suffix search, I can't find a way to make it find a dagesh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbcvida Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I can do the suffix search easily, but nothing I have tried will locate the dagesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbcvida Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) On 2/14/2024 at 6:47 PM, blgriffin83 said: I've noticed that the dagesh on the final chaf is hidden or very hard to see on the final chaf in ויחנך (image attached). Is there perhaps another font option for the Hebrew that would change that? I searched for all final kaphs that immediately precede the sof pasuk in 1-2 Samuel that have a dagesh. I searched the AF text with the ETCBC text in parallel (AF does not display accents). I noted in the examples I got that this particular feature seems to occur when the word attached to the suffix has a seghol vowel and a meteg accent. I would like to search for all examples but have not discovered how to find the dagesh in the final kaph. Would the Masorah have such information? Here are my samples - Gen 12.1; Num 6.25; 1 Sam 11.1; 12.10; 15.28; 2 sam 13.13 UPDATE I searched for the vowel meteg combination and there were an abundance that did not contain the dagesh in the final kaph Edited February 17 by mbcvida update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Simpson Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, mbcvida said: I can do the suffix search easily, but nothing I have tried will locate the dagesh It actually seems to work reasonably well using a Hebrew construct with the suffix and a dagesh. While it's hard to see because of the font issues, I am pretty sure all the final kaph's here do have a dagesh. Edited February 17 by Ken Simpson additional info 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbcvida Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Brilliant! I never thought of using the construct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accordance Enthusiast Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 @Ken Simpson thanks so much it works indeed! (I just needed to change from LETTERS search to WORDS search). Compare with ETCBC and it is clear that they have a dagesh. @Dr. Nathan Parker there is no problem here, Ken Simpson's search works great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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