Mark Allison Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Wouldn't have expected a Bible software company to be endorsing Tarot readings. Maybe that's a hint at a new feature coming in 14.1, lol. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanHuber Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mark Allison said: Wouldn't have expected a Bible software company to be endorsing Tarot readings. It took me a bit to figure out what you meant. Good catch. 😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Allison Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) Quoting a friend: "If only they had a piece of software they could COPY THE WORD FROM." Edited August 29, 2023 by Mark Allison 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Allen Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 So, here's where we're at: Accordance wants to do a media push for original language studies. The motto "learn the lingo" is decided as the key phrase for the campaign. Accordance publishes an image for this campaign which...doesn't have the correct word for Torah. I can't think of a better way to undermine the message of the campaign. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abram K-J Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 This caught my eye right away. Ouch! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abram K-J Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Since we're here, let's do some source criticism, but then I really should get back to work. Lexical form: תּוֹרָה (the graphic is not that) Construct form: תּוֹרַת (getting closer... did this influence the graphic-as-we-have-it?) Closest I could find: Jeremiah 32:23 (BHS, surface text w/ textual issue): וּבְתֹרָותְךָ֣ But I'm guessing a copy-paste left-to-right issue. Still, why the Taw at the end and not the He? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Allison Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 And if you don't have Accordance you can use ChatGPT 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Allen Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mark Allison said: And if you don't have Accordance you can use ChatGPT 🙂 But….but…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Allison Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 Just now, Wes Allen said: But….but…. Lol. It does make you wonder if there's anyone left at Accordance who can read Hebrew (besides David Lang of course). 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Cozier Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 My my my! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Nelson Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Mark Allison said: Lol. It does make you wonder if there's anyone left at Accordance who can read Hebrew (besides David Lang of course). There are, but I am not one of them. And I am the one who made the graphic. It's in the process of being updated. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nathan Parker Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 It's a new feature we've added to the website where we can tell you future Accordance versions before they're released. 🙂 In all seriousness, I just reported the Hebrew word issue. Thanks for pointing it out! I can read Hebrew, but I didn't look closely enough at the graphic. Sorry about that! I'll start double-checking Hebrew a bit better. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nathan Parker Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 We copy/pasted it from Accordance, and there is a bug in 14.0.7 where some Hebrew is copy/pasting incorrectly. We'll address that shortly. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Allison Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nathan Parker said: We copy/pasted it from Accordance, and there is a bug in 14.0.7 where some Hebrew is copy/pasting incorrectly. We'll address that shortly. That's a pretty serious bug if it's changing letters and vowel pointing. Is it happening when you're exporting as unicode, Yehudit, or either one? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Nelson Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 On 8/29/2023 at 2:33 PM, Mark Allison said: That's a pretty serious bug if it's changing letters and vowel pointing. Is it happening when you're exporting as unicode, Yehudit, or either one? I'm pretty sure the issue was on my end. In the future I will remember to change my design settings to allow for Middle Eastern and Asian script. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Allen Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Copy/Pasted from iPadOS Accordance. How is this bug being triggered? I’d like to replicate it, please. תּוֹרָה 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Atnip Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 I am glad this was pointed out. (no pun intended) I am in my second year of Hebrew and when I saw it I thought, "Hmm. That is different. Must be some kind of infinitive absolute of the verb upon which Torah is based." Now I see it is closer to an absolute messup. 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nathan Parker Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Mark Allison said: That's a pretty serious bug if it's changing letters and vowel pointing. Is it happening when you're exporting as unicode, Yehudit, or either one? I did more digging, and it's restricted to copy/pasting to User Notes, not to third-party word processors. Even then it's only happening on a couple of words for me. In this instance, the issue was an incorrect setting with the third-party app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nathan Parker Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mike Atnip said: I am glad this was pointed out. (no pun intended) I am in my second year of Hebrew and when I saw it I thought, "Hmm. That is different. Must be some kind of infinitive absolute of the verb upon which Torah is based." Now I see it is closer to an absolute messup. 🙂 If anyone from my Hebrew class got the newsletter, I'm sure they're having a good laugh today. Hope they don't count points off to me. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Allison Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Sean Nelson said: I'm pretty sure the issue was on my end. In the future I will remember to change my design settings to allow for Middle Eastern and East Asian script. Yeah, I pasted "torah" into an InDesign document with a Times New Roman unicode font and it gave me the same thing you encountered. Very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristin Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 I noticed the website looks better now, but also not nearly as entertaining. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abram K-J Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 42 minutes ago, Mike Atnip said: I am glad this was pointed out A+ pun! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nathan Parker Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Mark Allison said: 3 hours ago, Sean Nelson said: Yeah, I pasted "torah" into an InDesign document with a Times New Roman unicode font and it gave me the same thing you encountered. Very strange. Might be an issue with ID unless you enable a certain language feature. It also did the same thing when we copy/pasted torah from Wikipedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nathan Parker Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Abram K-J said: A+ pun! Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nathan Parker Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Kristin said: I noticed the website looks better now, but also not nearly as entertaining. At least everyone got a good laugh from this sale! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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