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Rod Decker
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I'm working on the various accent forms of εἰμί as an enclitic, etc. in Mark. I ran this search (in a custom range, Mark 1:1-16:8--which still insists on including the Short Ending that *follows* v. 8! but it's less work to manually adjust from that than the entire book and have to omit forms from vv 9-20--but that's another story!)

 

"ἐστιν" <OR> "ἐστίν" <OR> "ἔστιν"

 

When I then click the Details button, Analysis tab, requesting only Inflected forms for the analysis, I get these stats:

 

Total number of verses = 69

(total number of verses displayed = 69)

"ἐστιν" (4 total words)

Number of different forms = 2:

ἔστιν = 1

ἐστιν = 3

"ἐστίν" (0 total words)

"ἔστιν" (69 total words)

Number of different forms = 4:

ἔστιν = 8

ἐστιν = 49

ἐστὶν = 4

ἐστίν = 8

 

I'm apparently doing something wrong since I get 3 lists, the forms of which overlap for 2 and 1 shows 0 when there are such forms in the text (listed in both the other 2 lists).

 

If I change my search and specify the grammatical form instead of searching for inflected forms, I get this:

 

Total number of verses = 69

(total number of verses displayed = 69)

ειμι@[verb pres ind third sing] (73 total words)

Number of different forms = 4:

ἔστιν = 9

ἐστιν = 52

ἐστὶν = 4

ἐστίν = 8

 

Which apparently combines the two lists from the inflected forms search.

 

If I search for =ἔστιν I get an error, asking me to select the correct *lexical* form, even though the Help file says that "In Greek the exact search [i.e., "The equal sign in front of a word requires a search for the exact form which follows it"] includes the capitalization, ending forms, accents, and breathing marks."

 

I'm totally puzzled; it appears that the grammatical search is the only way to get the right results, but surely I should be able to search for inflected forms to get the appropriate subsets (i.e., all forms of *just* ἔστιν)? :unsure:

 

Probably one of those obvious things that I'm forgetting...

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Read your post pretty quickly, but here's something to try: wrap the form in quotes and place the = before it. Are these the results you're looking for?

 

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Read your post pretty quickly, but here's something to try: wrap the form in quotes and place the = before it. Are these the results you're looking for?

 

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I tried that already. When I search for

 

="ἔστιν"

 

I get a dialog asking me to select the *lexical* form!

 

Whoops! I just realized you had a screen shot. Looks like I'm putting the = in the wrong place. I was searching for

="ἔστιν"

 

But you have "=ἔστιν"

 

That does, indeed, make quite a difference and does give me what I need. (I knew it was likely something simple.)

 

I must have missed it in the Help files, but an example of that or a comment about the correct sequence of operators in that type of search would be very helpful.

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I tried that already. When I search for

 

="ἔστιν"

 

I get a dialog asking me to select the *lexical* form!

 

Try placing the = inside the quotes: "=ἔστιν"

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