Rick55 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Can someone please explain why Accordance shows that the KJV has a total word count of 790,868? This does not seem correct, because compared to all other reliable sources, the KJV has a total word count of 783,137, not 790,868. Am I doing something wrong when doing a word count? I am trying to find the Genesis to Revelation total word count so I am simply searching with the * with the range from Gen-Rev. Does Accordance use the Authorized Version KJV better known as the 1769 revised edition? Or what KJV edition is Accordance using? To elaborate further on this word-counting issue: When using the ESV Accordance shows 757,514 words while modern Scholarship confirms 757,439 words. When using the NKJV Accordance shows 771,175 words while modern Scholarship confirms 770,430 words. When using the NIV Accordance shows 727,146 words while modern Scholarship confirms 727,969 words. What is the reason for all this inaccuracy in Accordance? Can someone please enlighten me on this issue, I will gladly buy you a coffee or tea, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbcvida Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 what are the sources you are comparing? I noticed that a word count of the ESVS (with Strongs) and the ESV (without Strongs) doesn't match either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick55 Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 6 hours ago, mbcvida said: what are the sources you are comparing? I noticed that a word count of the ESVS (with Strongs) and the ESV (without Strongs) doesn't match either Hi Mbcivida, I am comparing through multiple sources and they all seem to agree. Right now I am focusing on the KJV so that will be the focus, here are some links where they all agree with the word count 783,137. It surprised me to see the drastic difference in Accordance word count on the KJV and has forced me to look elsewhere. Here are some links regarding the word count: https://kingjamesbibledictionary.com/BibleFacts https://capitalizemytitle.com/how-many-words-are-in-the-bible/ https://wordcounter.net/blog/2015/12/08/10975_how-many-words-bible.html https://thebibleanswer.org/how-many-words-in-bible/ https://www.swcs.com.au/BibleTotalWords.htm https://www.pblcoc.org/bulletin-articles/how-many-words-in-the-english-bible/ There are many more, but the point is many come to the same agreement on this. So why is Accordance's result so far off, even 7,731 words off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misulejoha Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 @Rick55, I believe the difference in word count has to do with Accordance counting things such as subscriptions accompanied at the end of many of the NT epistles. I did an analysis of each book of the KJV Strong's and compared it to the count of numbers provided by another online source (https://biblebelievers.com/believers-org/kjv-stats.html). The book of Psalms was the only book in the OT that had a different count than the source I provided. I'm not sure if its refered to as a superscript, but many of the chapters in the book of Psalms starts with who wrote who wrote that particular Psalm (ie, A Psalm of David, To the chief Musician on Neginoth, A Psalm of David, etc). My guess is that many of the websites you've listed didn't include some of these things in their counts which is why there is such a wide difference in the total counts between them and Accordance. I have attached screen shots to hopefully convey some of the things I'm trying to say above. I hope this helps. One of the screenshots show the side by side comparison of each book broken down by number between the website I listed above and Accordance. Hopefully this helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Simpson Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) I think it very much depends on the exact version of the KJV your are examining. A quick google search turned up a number of different counts for the KJV, probably reflective of different versions. One that came up remarkably close to the Accordance number was on Quora... interestingly, the verse count in accordance is 31208, not 31102 (106 difference). I wonder what text Mr Garay was using. Edited January 9 by Ken Simpson (more info) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick55 Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 Hey thank you so much! That answers some of my questions. It's just a miner detail, what is important is what is written within the word count. Thanks all God bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Simpson Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Rick55 said: Hey thank you so much! That answers some of my questions. It's just a miner detail, what is important is what is written within the word count. Thanks all God bless No problems. Love to help. Yes the text is the key thing. Numbers are important, but only as they help to elucidate the word. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannian Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I would think you’d also have to be careful that certain sources aren’t mixing the NKJV with the KJV. Also, which word count procedures included the names of the different books? Or when they say “word count of the KJV”, do they mean just the scripture of each book, or literally every single word in the original KJV? I’m sure things can get muddled up if these things aren’t specified. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick55 Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 On 1/9/2024 at 5:31 PM, Johannian said: I would think you’d also have to be careful that certain sources aren’t mixing the NKJV with the KJV. Also, which word count procedures included the names of the different books? Or when they say “word count of the KJV”, do they mean just the scripture of each book, or literally every single word in the original KJV? I’m sure things can get muddled up if these things aren’t specified. I am grateful for your point, Johannian, thanks for your valuable input. Much to consider. Thanks Ken, Rick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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