Steven MacDonald Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) I was wondering any of you more advanced users would know how to perform a construct search for any Hebrew word containing a composite shewa under a gutteral letter. Any help or guidance would be appreciated 🙂 Steve Edited September 25, 2023 by Steven MacDonald forgot a word and spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian K. Mitchell Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 The database in Accordance do not tag guttural letters so you may have to use a wildcard or specify a guttural letter and which composite shewa you want. You can do on the search pane's entry box like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven MacDonald Posted September 26, 2023 Author Share Posted September 26, 2023 Thank you for the information. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Simpson Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 (edited) You can shortcut this a little by using the ? wildcard constrained to the gutturals. so FORWARDS - because cut and paste onto the forums doesn't work in reverse as far as I can make it work... "=*?(ארהחע)ֲ*" The composite sewa at the end will have to be changed for each search but at least there are only three of them! So it should look something like this Edited September 29, 2023 by Ken Simpson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accordance Enthusiast Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Ken Simpson said: You can shortcut this a little by using the ? wildcard constrained to the gutturals. so FORWARDS - because cut and paste onto the forums doesn't work in reverse as far as I can make it work... "=*?(ארהחע)ֲ*" The composite sewa at the end will have to be changed for each search but at least there are only three of them! So it should look something like this That's really great, thanks! I used to do it with a construct search which is more complex and difficult to build... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Simpson Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Accordance Enthusiast said: That's really great, thanks! I used to do it with a construct search which is more complex and difficult to build... I love playing with the wildcard system in Accordance. It's not perfect, but it's fun! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian K. Mitchell Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/27/2023 at 8:58 AM, Steven MacDonald said: Thank you for the information. Thank you for asking the question that started this thread! I really like questions and threads like these! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven MacDonald Posted September 30, 2023 Author Share Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/29/2023 at 2:41 AM, Accordance Enthusiast said: That's really great, thanks! I used to do it with a construct search which is more complex and difficult to build... A great example of the power of Accordance! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accordance Enthusiast Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 On 9/29/2023 at 2:14 PM, Ken Simpson said: You can shortcut this a little by using the ? wildcard constrained to the gutturals. so FORWARDS - because cut and paste onto the forums doesn't work in reverse as far as I can make it work... "=*?(ארהחע)ֲ*" The composite sewa at the end will have to be changed for each search but at least there are only three of them! So it should look something like this I've been trying to reproduce this search, and just in case it could help someone, the specified vowel should basically be added to the closing parenthesis, not to the "?", nor to the last letter in the parentheses. So I finally managed to make a similar search with the Chateph Segol as the desired vowel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Simpson Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 11 hours ago, Accordance Enthusiast said: I've been trying to reproduce this search, and just in case it could help someone, the specified vowel should basically be added to the closing parenthesis, not to the "?", nor to the last letter in the parentheses. So I finally managed to make a similar search with the Chateph Segol as the desired vowel. The parenthesis delimits the range of letters that can fill the ? Wildcard. And the composite sewe has to come immediately after it because the parenthesis is not a “letter” as such. So the whole ?(…) construction is equivalent to just a ? so you are absolutely right, but this is why. Since the vowel points are all on a preceding letter in Hebrew they are pushed under the letter so it looks like the vowel might be before the the parenthesis but it has to come afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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