Anthony Sepulveda Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Hello, I was trying to make some drill for students step by step regarding the aorist tense. I wanted to start by isolating the so-called 'sigmatic' aorists (we could begin by this before handling strong and root aorists), and I don't know a quick way to tell Accordance to single them out for me from the GNT or LXX. How do I do this? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Sepulveda Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 I happened to stumble upon this tip in the help file: Hint The search for aorist verbs in Greek finds both first and second aorist forms. To find first aorist verbs, search for [VERB aorist] @-[VERB 2aorist]. I tried it, and the program returned this error: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Accordance used to distinguish 1st and 2nd aorist in the tagging. That distinction was removed so the above query will no longer work. All aorists are aorists. There was discussion of it at the time in the forums. See : http://www.accordancebible.com/forums/topic/16313-2nd-aorist-tag-removed-in-1105/?do=findComment&comment=79140 Thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Sepulveda Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 Okay...so I guess it would be the pedagogical methods that would have to change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I wondered about that also but I am afraid I have no really useful suggestion. Thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Simpson Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) For the sigmatic aorists, try this... I know the list isn't complete, but it seems reasonably good "*s?(ae)*"@[verb aorist] Edited December 4, 2015 by Ken Simpson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Sepulveda Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 Hi Ken, Thanks a lot for this! It works quite well; this way I could drill students on recognizing this basic form of the aorist. I made a little tweak so that it can also catch verbs with labial root endings: "*?(σψ)?(αε)*"@[verb aorist] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Simpson Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Nice addition Anthony! I just threw it together really quickly and didn’t try to think about the outliers, Good work! There is still a place for wildcards!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Sepulveda Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 Well, just building up with what you started. I just remembered to also have to add a ξ to catch the guttural roots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco V. Fabbri Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) Good, but you would also need to catch the subjunctive forms, plus imperative forms like λυσον. I suggest: "*?(σψξ)?(αεοωη)*"@[verb aorist] Edited December 5, 2015 by Marco V. Fabbri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Sepulveda Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 Right! Thanks. Now that's completed; off to producing more drills... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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