Steve Raine Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Dear Accordance Gurus-- Still hoping for Herbert W. Smyth's Greek Grammar. Blessings, Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwconrad Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 I think I made this suggestion once before, back when the forum was an e-list; I enthusiastically second this request. Smyth's grammar (Messing revision of 1956) is far more valuable than the current standard regularly cited in questions of Greek grammar, Wallace; although Smyth's central focus is on Classical Attic Greek, the notes extend backwards to Homeric and forward to Hellenistic Greek. While Wallace seems to multiply subcategories of grammatical constructions, most of Smyth's categories have stood up well and useful; moreover, the translations of Greek texts cited for illustration are remarkably lucid. It would really be useful to have BDF (Blass-Debrunner-Funk) also, and, were it possible, it would be nice too to have A.T. Robertson's big grammar, however dated some of it may be. BDF is more useful, in my opinion, than Wallace, but Smyth would be the prime desideratum among grammars. Ah, if we could have Smyth and the up-to-date unabridged LSJ ("the Great Scott"), the research potential of Accordance for Greek NT students would be extended immeasurably. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Moon Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Would still love to see Smyth. Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abram K-J Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Same here. That would be a good addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Agreed. Smyth, along with an ancient database such as Perseus, TLG, PHI Greek Inscriptions, Theoi Greek Mythology Project, and Inscriptions of Israel/Palestine (perhaps all?!) would be stellar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Simpson Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Agreed, on all counts James. Sad that TLG was withdrawn by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 +1 for Smyth primarily but the others would be cool too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Jenney Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Report: regrettably, no electronic text of Smyth's larger work exists, though a readable PDF is available on Google books. This is often the case with these older standard works. Converting them to an e-text is a huge amount of work, made more difficult because of the many different languages and fonts in books like these. That's not to say we haven't done it in the past, or that we will not do it in the future, but it is a major project. I imagine there would have to be a large demand and that it would fill a need not currently met by any of our other publications before we'd even consider it. I maintain a personal library of books that are not available in Accordance. Among them, for instance, is Strack and Billerbeck's commentary on the NT. I don't look for it to appear anytime soon in Accordance, either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abram K-J Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 All the more reason to dream about a PDF manager that is integrated into Accordance! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abram K-J Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Speaking of... Tim, what are you using for PDF management in the meantime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Jenney Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Hi, Abram! I have had Devon Think Pro recommended to me (http://www.devontechnologies.com/products/devonthink/devonthink-pro.html). I even bought it, but really did not use it that much. It does seem like a very worthy product, though. Frankly, I had completed my Ph.D. by the time Accordance was released. I lived such a long way from the university, I had already bought the reference works I needed, so I am pretty much set. I rarely buy a print book or download a PDF now. I am content with Accordance's resources; they cover more than 90% of what I need. My personal library covers half of the rest, leaving only about 10% I need to secure through inter-library loans, personal library visits, etc. If and when Accordance adds some of my old favorites (original ICC, Westminster Old Testament Library series, the previously mentioned Strack and Billerbeck, Goodenough's Jewish Symbols in the Greco-Roman Era, etc.), I'll sell my hard copies and shrink my personal library a bit more. After all, at 58, I'm now looking forward to the day when I can retire into a motor home and tour the country, laptop at my side! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbishop Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abram K-J Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Yes, I've also heard good things, and have a license, but just haven't had time to play with Devon Think! Will do that now. I am content with Accordance's resources; they cover more than 90% of what I need. My personal library covers half of the rest, leaving only about 10% I need to secure through inter-library loans, personal library visits, etc. So, in other words, you're researching at more than 105%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Jenney Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Hah! 90% Accordance; 10% personal library; 10% everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan C. Borland Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Hello Accordancers! Robertson's big grammar is available in Accordance (at least it was included with a bundle I purchased), but BDF is still top on my wish list. From past discussions on the forum, grammars are notoriously difficult to tag, and apparently there was no e-text of BDF available, making such a project even more difficult. Still we can express our interest and perhaps Accordance will weigh the cost and take up the challenge! Sincerely, Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Jonathan, BDF is a available as a pdf on the web freely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neill Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 +1 for Smyth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieudonne Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 +1 for Smyth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Brown Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 BDF is now available in Accordance (in case anyone missed the announcement at the time of ETS/SBL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Smith Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I noticed that Smyth is now available from another software company that shall remain nameless. Might this increase the chances of coming to our one and truly favorite software? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neill Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Still +1 for Smyth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nathan Parker Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I found this one on a list. Reviving this thread to see if the interest is still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Cobb Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 It would be a worthy addition, although there are more recent grammars as well: https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-syntax-and-semantics-of-the-verb-in-classical-greek-an-introduction_albert-rijksbaron/13995271/#edition=14837743&idiq=26780480 https://www.peterlang.com/document/1111098 The latter has already been suggested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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