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Kristin

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Where is the "Compare" feature? I can find it in settings to change the colors, but I can't find it anywhere on the toolbar how to add it there. I even searched the help menu and it only showed me personal workspaces I have named that.

 

Also, maybe this is also a feature request, but while I can change the colors in settings for Compare, it seems to be stuck on whether something is a strikethrough, underline, or "vertical line". It would be really helpful if the user could edit what type of line it is (like the highlight lines have options), as the presets are very unclear.

 

Thanks.

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Hey Kristin,

I just checked Accordance 14.0.9 on macOS Sonoma, and the 'Compare' feature seems to be working as expected. It looks like you’ll just need to have two texts open in the same zone for the feature to be enabled.

Hope this helps!

 

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Hi @Rick55,

Thank you for the screenshot! As soon as I saw it next to Live Click, there it was staring back at me. I guess I use it so rarely that I had blocked it out like white noise, and so now I tried to find it in one of the menus. 

 

I REALLY wish we could change the lines, as I find the vertical line unclear.

 

Thanks again,

Kristin

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35 minutes ago, Kristin said:

Hi @Rick55,

Thank you for the screenshot! As soon as I saw it next to Live Click, there it was staring back at me. I guess I use it so rarely that I had blocked it out like white noise, and so now I tried to find it in one of the menus. 

 

I REALLY wish we could change the lines, as I find the vertical line unclear.

 

Thanks again,

Kristin

 

I hope this helps bring some clarity to the vertical lines. From what I've observed, the lines indicate where the sentence structure differs. While this might not be completely accurate, it's what I've noticed, mostly slight changes in sentence structure.

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Hi @Rick55,

Thank you, and the more I look at it, the more I remember why I don't use the "compare." I can  show Mt 7:22 as a random example. I mainly have two questions:

 

1) "prophesy in your name" - The ESV has a red line and green dot, while the NIV has a dot and red line, though the only distinction is a comma or not. So it seems like the ESV should have a green add dot, but the NIV shouldn't have one after "prophesy."

 

2. "cast out demons" - it seems like "cast / drive" should be the only words highlighted, as "demons" is the same in both, and the word "out" is as well.

 

So I don't know if it just isn't very precise, or if I am reading it wrong.

 

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Thanks @Rick55 for chiming in!

 

I'll see if I can whip up a video on Compare. From what I've heard, there's no way to change the compare types (just the line colors) since the compare types are pre-set for a particular purpose, but I don't recall my strikethroughs being in the same position as yours. I thought mine went more in the middle of the words. I'll play around and see.

 

Compare would be a good video as it is an often overlooked feature.

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I agree it's a great fetaure. I have a workspace saved where I have my favorite English versions to compare and use it quite a bit.  I also saw somewhere where you can use it for textual criticism by using Greek translation as main version. I have set up and used a little but haven't come to any conclusion on its usefulness.

 

A criticism I have is if you decide to change from your first "base" to another version it doesn't automatically adjust. An example is if I have versions compare to ESV in first column and then include LSB, NIV, NASB, NET, etc and then decide I want NIV to be first I have to basically create a new workspace as moving NET to first column doesn't make it that one everything compares to.

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On 9/20/2024 at 6:17 PM, Kristin said:

2. "cast out demons" - it seems like "cast / drive" should be the only words highlighted, as "demons" is the same in both, and the word "out" is as well.

 

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Is that to do with the phrase tagging in the niv as on that day many, the many is the same, its just where the on that day and the coma are placed? Have you tried it with the basic niv? 

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1 hour ago, Larry Wing said:

A criticism I have is if you decide to change from your first "base" to another version it doesn't automatically adjust. An example is if I have versions compare to ESV in first column and then include LSB, NIV, NASB, NET, etc and then decide I want NIV to be first I have to basically create a new workspace as moving NET to first column doesn't make it that one everything compares to.

Larry, in Rick's screen shot there is a cog and down arrow and i remember that there is a setting where you can specify the base, but its many moons since I used compare.

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1 hour ago, ukfraser said:

s that to do with the phrase tagging in the niv as on that day many, the many is the same, its just where the on that day and the coma are placed? Have you tried it with the basic niv? 

 

Hi @ukfraser,

No, I hadn't, but I just tried and it does look different with the basic NIV.

 

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Thanks Kristin. Hopefully someone from accordance who understands the underlying tagging will chip in on this thread, but im inclined to think it to do with the phrase tagging. Not sure if there is a second g/k one with phrase tagging as well. But would also be interesting to compare with another strongs. Like you, i havent used compare much. 

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4 hours ago, ukfraser said:

Larry, in Rick's screen shot there is a cog and down arrow and i remember that there is a setting where you can specify the base, but its many moons since I used compare.

Thanks but that doesn't show up in 14.0.10 Mac. I can drag any translation to the first but the original first still shows as the base version. As I recall I reported it a long time ago but it still has the issue. Not a high priority I'm sure and not a deal breaker for the feature. 

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2 hours ago, ukfraser said:

Not sure if there is a second g/k one with phrase tagging as well.

 

The Mounce NT also uses phrase tagging and G/K numbers.

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I can run some tests if need be and see.

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