Poll: The Ignatius Catholic Study Bible Old and New Testament as an Accordance module

[Michael J. Bolesta]

The Ignatius Catholic Study Bible has been in development for 25 years. It will be released in print on November 15, 2024. The New Testament is available in Kindle, so like as not, an electronic text will exist.

 

Please vote, indicating if you would purchase it as an Accordance module. Thank you very much!

 

https://ignatius.com/ignatius-catholic-study-bible-2h/

 

Publisher: Ignatius Press

ISBN/UPC: 9781586176136 (hardcover)

[Sean Nelson]

I am not Catholic, but study bibles from other traditions are always helpful in building a proper understanding of said tradition's teachings and beliefs, so I'd get it.

[Rick55]

3 hours ago, Sean Nelson said:

I am not Catholic, but study bibles from other traditions are always helpful in building a proper understanding of said tradition's teachings and beliefs, so I'd get it.

 

I 2nd this and have been interested to see the Word on Fire series from Robert Barren available in Accordance 

[Dr. Nathan Parker]

I'm not Catholic, but I know plenty of Catholics I could promote it to. :-)

[Paul Cross]

"Yes" to the poll and "Yes" to it being accompanied by the Revised Standard Version Second Catholic Edition (RSV2CE) translation that accompanies the printed version of the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible. 

[Daniel Francis]

I have the New Testament else elsewhere and believe it is a very fine work and would be happy to purchase the complete version here in Accordance.  It isn’t ground breaking but adds nice insights from the church fathers. References to the catechism and generally insightful notes. As pointed out above non Catholic believers, like myself, will be able to benefit from this greatly too. 

 

-dan

[Donald Cobb]

I would be at least interested. I'm not voting, as the poll gives only the possibility for yes/no answer, and I'd like to have a better idea of the contents and the price before giving a definitive reply.

[Lorinda H. M. Hoover]

4 hours ago, Donald Cobb said:

I would be at least interested. I'm not voting, as the poll gives only the possibility for yes/no answer, and I'd like to have a better idea of the contents and the price before giving a definitive reply.

Ditto.  I’d certainly consider it. 

[Larry Anderson]

I'm very interested.

[jlm]

This study Bible has already sold out the first two printings and the publisher is taking preorders for a third. The third is also expected to sell out quickly, so a fourth is already in the works. My point is that this is a title that would sell very well.

[Dr. Nathan Parker]

5 hours ago, jlm said:

This study Bible has already sold out the first two printings and the publisher is taking preorders for a third. The third is also expected to sell out quickly, so a fourth is already in the works. My point is that this is a title that would sell very well.

 

Very nice!

[ukfraser]

17 hours ago, jlm said:

This study Bible has already sold out the first two printings and the publisher is taking preorders for a third. The third is also expected to sell out quickly, so a fourth is already in the works. My point is that this is a title that would sell very well.

If this volume does sell very well, it would show

a) how little value there is in having polls and

b) how meaningless it is to set targets of 50 for other resources. 

[Kristin]

6 hours ago, ukfraser said:

how meaningless it is to set targets of 50 for other resources. 

 

This is the part I find specifically problematic, as the people active on the forums are only a small percentage of users, and also, some people want a resource but don't vote. I think the ANET poll is a good example, it is not a secret that it is a heavily requested module, but even that doesn't have 50 votes. With this, I haven't voted since I "might" get it depending on the price, and "maybe" isn' an option here. I would say it is a 90% likelihood I would get it, as I like reading other views.

[Dr. Nathan Parker]

We've thought about doing customer survey emails to get more people involved in voting on new books.

[Nicholas]

Yes, I would absolutely buy this Study Bible!   Please consider adding it. thank you! 🙏 

[Nicholas]

I was in contact with Ignatius Press.  They replied "I'm sorry, but there won't be an ebook version of the new Study Bible for at least a couple of years."

[ukfraser]

On 12/5/2024 at 3:08 PM, Kristin said:

 

This is the part I find specifically problematic, as the people active on the forums are only a small percentage of users, and also, some people want a resource but don't vote. I think the ANET poll is a good example, it is not a secret that it is a heavily requested module, but even that doesn't have 50 votes. With this, I haven't voted since I "might" get it depending on the price, and "maybe" isn' an option here. I would say it is a 90% likelihood I would get it, as I like reading other views.

As of today, 31 members have voted for ANET (though it shows as 33 so there is still some dodgy maths on the web site). Looking at polls, the most seems to be around 38 with many polls just around the 20 mark of forum members voting. 
As Kristin has said, forum members are a small fraction of users.

setting targets for 50 votes is unrealistic. 
according to the publisher for the study bible listed on this thread, they have nearly filled the 4th reprint and this volume is still on pre order as it hasn't been published. Today it has had 23 votes from forum members plus the two dodgy site votes. 

 

Edited December 13, 2024 by ukfraser

[Dr. Nathan Parker]

On ANET, I'm not sure if we'd need the "50" or not for interest on that to be able to get it. It would be the first work we've acquired from that publisher, so they may make it easy for us to grab it. We just need to explore with them and see.

 

Not every module request needs 50 requests for us to move forward. Some/most publishers we can easily grab content. There's a handful of higher-end ones though that require extra up-front investments (on top of module development) where having at least 50 requests would make it easier for us to potentially grab them since the more interest we have, the better we could move it through production. That's usually an exception, not a general rule. 

 

There's only a handful of publishers we cannot get content from at all, and those I listed at the top of this forum section.

[ukfraser]

the point is that no requests ever achieve 50. Looking through all the threads, at best you get mid 20's.
So Setting a target of 50 means you wont get that resource. 

[Dr. Nathan Parker]

3 hours ago, ukfraser said:

the point is that no requests ever achieve 50. Looking through all the threads, at best you get mid 20's.
So Setting a target of 50 means you wont get that resource

 

Good point. I'd rather try something like an email survey (although that probably wouldn't get enough responses) or a pre-order system so we can get true numbers. Something more than just trying to gauge feedback from the forums.

[Kristin]

32 minutes ago, Dr. Nathan Parker said:

I'd rather try something like an email survey (although that probably wouldn't get enough responses) or a pre-order system so we can get true numbers. Something more than just trying to gauge feedback from the forums.

 

I think an email survey would be far worse. There is no scenario where I would click on a link from an email, and would probably mark it as spam, tbh. If you want to gauge feedback from the forums, just seeing what people say is probably the best solution. It isn't a secret that people want ANET or the completion of the Ugaritic texts, for example.

[ukfraser]

16 hours ago, Dr. Nathan Parker said:

 or a pre-order system so we can get true numbers.

After the issues following pre order for accordance 14, I am not sure how many on the forum would take this option up either. I really think the best way is for the sales team to look at previous sales to get some sort of indication.

[Dr. Nathan Parker]

2 hours ago, ukfraser said:

sales team to look at previous sales to get some sort of indication

 

I like the idea, but that might be too simple and sensible. :-)