A.D. Riddle Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 I have few questions about this title. Does the Accordance module include: (1) the glossaries? I know there is one in volume 3. It seems there is not one in volume 1. I am not sure about volumes 2 and 4. (2) introductions and concordances of texts? (3) tables, charts, and excurses? Does this item ever go on sale? A.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nathan Parker Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 I can show some screenshot examples if you need them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.D. Riddle Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 Text answers are adequate, if anyone knows. Does this item ever go on sale? A.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nathan Parker Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 I'd have to look it up and see if we've put it on sale. I could do that Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Gilbert Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 @A.D. Riddle I don't have access to the print volumes. I scrolled through the Aramaic tagged version and its corresponding English volume in Accordance and: 1. I didn’t see any glossary, including in vol. 3. 2. I didn’t see any introductions or concordances. There is nothing like the kind of introductions in say, The Context of Scripture. There are brief titles, e.g., “A1.1 The Letter of King Adon (J. 86984 = 3483).” Some titles add a few comments, e.g., “A3.1 Cowley 54 (Sachau Plate 36): Exchange of Letters re 10 Asses. First half of 5th century B.C.E.” In the “Ostraca & Assorted Inscriptions” volume there are brief comments and descriptions, e.g., “unpublished,” “painted,” “engraved,” “incised,” “Funerary Stela,” “convex,” “concave,” “unclassified fragment,” etc. 3. I didn’t see any tables, charts, or excurses. The only other thing I saw is: Explanation of Type Styles Certain text [Restored text] (Addition required by English style) [Probable restoration] supralinear addition WORD OF UNCERTAIN MEANING . . . = missing or uncertain text (EDITORIAL NOTATION) d = alternate readings r Extra space: original with scribe (usually in address for seal and cord) 5Line numbers of Aramaic text (ERASURE: or) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dennison Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 16 hours ago, A.D. Riddle said: (1) the glossaries? I know there is one in volume 3. It seems there is not one in volume 1. I am not sure about volumes 2 and 4. (2) introductions and concordances of texts? (3) tables, charts, and excurses? It's important to note that this module is two modules in Accordance: TAD-T (Aramaic from Egypt) Tagged and TAD-E (TAD English). TAD-E can be opened in two ways, either in parallel with TAD-T as a Text, or as a standalone Tool. Opening it as a Tool does not seem to reveal the items you are interested in, and an old post by @Helen Brown suggests it also does not include the Yardeni drawings either. I would like to see an update to this module to include these items also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nathan Parker Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 I'll also push for an update on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.D. Riddle Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 Michel, In volume 3, there is a general introduction for the entire volume that covers topics such as: Papyrology, Graphics, and Accounts and Lists. I do not see introductions to individual texts or groups of texts. The "Explanation of Type Styles" is part of the additional material, but there is more. Below are the contents to volume 3. Note: the glossary is an Aramaic-English glossary of the texts in volume 3, and it includes forms and a concordance of attestations. Some of the excurses and figures are also pretty helpful. These items are entirely text material, all apart from the Yardeni drawings which are not included. There are also two foldouts mentioned in the contents, but these seem not to be included in the library copy I am using. A.D. Table of Contents Concordance of Texts Texts and Bibliography Introduction Papyrology Graphics Accounts and Lists Glossary Explanation of Type Styles and Key to Notes Text C1.1-2 Literary Texts C1.1 Ahiqar C1.2 Cowley 71 C2 Historical Texts C2.1 Bisitun C3.1-29 Accounts C3.1 C3.2 ⋮ C3.29 C4.1-9 Lists C4.1 C4.2 ⋮ C4.9 Figure 1. Order of Plates and Columns in Ahiqar (C1.1) and Customs Account (C3.7) Figure 2. Concordance of Ahiqar Column, Line, and Saying Numbers (C1.1) Figure 3. Monthly Total of Incoming Ships for 475 B.C.E. (C3.7) Figure 4. Monthly Total of Outgoing Ships for 475 B.C.E. (C3.7) Figure 5. Correspondence of Incoming and Outgoing Ships; Annotations (C3.7) Figure 6. Monthly Customs Duty and Tithe Paid into the Royal Treasury; Annotations (C3.7) Figure 7. Documents with Double Dates (C3.8, 12, 14; B2.6); Discussion of Chronology Figure 8. Table of Equivalences and Values Excursus 1. Structures and Themes in Ahiqar (C1.1) Excursus 2. Discussion of Accounts Excursus 3. Discussion of Customs Account (C3.7) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Gilbert Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Thanks, A.D. Yes, that would all be very helpful. It’s incredible that it was all omitted. I have taken graduate level biblical Aramaic and Jewish Palestinian Aramaic classes, but I’ve never taught it. According to WorldCat, TAD started coming out in 1986, the year I took biblical Aramaic with Gleason Archer at TEDS. We were also each assigned a letter from Cowley to point, translate, and present. Would it ever have been nice to have something like this volume way back then! Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nathan Parker Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 My team is looking to see if it's ever been on sale. Since we don't know it off the top of our heads, probably been a while if we did put it on sale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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