Robb B Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Does anyone know what the diamonds represent in UBS5? I had never noticed them before today, but you can see one near the beginning of v. 7 and one at the end of v. 8 in the attached screenshot of 1 John 1:5-10. When I hover over them, I get the magnifying glass but no relevant information. Or is this a v. 14 bug perhaps? @Nathan Parkerdo you know? Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael J. Bolesta Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 From the introduction: ⬪ precedes a word or passage where two different variants could equally well be adopted as the reconstructed initial text. If there is an apparatus unit the same sign will be found at the citation of the variant in the apparatus seen as equal to the reading text. https://accordance.bible/link/read/UBS5_Apparatus#1278 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb B Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 That's helpful, thank you. When I pull up the UBS5 Apparatus, there are no notes corresponding to the diamonds in the apparatus. When the diamond appears in v. 4, there is a note in the apparatus explaining the diamond. Unfortunately, the only UBS I have in print is UBS4, which did not utilize the diamonds, so I cannot tell if this is a misprint of the UBS5 text and markings, or if the apparatus is missing information. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael J. Bolesta Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) Here is everything in 1J 1 USB5 apparatus: 1 John Chapter 1 1 4 {B} ἡμεῖς ℵ A✱vid B P Ψ 33 itz✱ copsamss // ὑμῖν Ac C 5 81 307 436 442 642 1175 1243 1448 1611 1735 1739 1852 1881 2344 Byz [K L] Lect itar, t vg syrp, h, pal copsams, bo, v arm eth geo slav Augustine BJ TOB 2 4 ἡμῶν ℵ B L Ψ 436 1175 Byzpt [L] Lect itar, z vgww, st syrp copsa geo slavms ⫽ ⬪ ὑμῶν A C 5 33 81 307 442 642 1243 1448 1611 1735 1739 1852 1881 2344 Byzpt [K P] ℓ 422 ℓ 598 ℓ 938 ℓ 1021 vgcl syrh, pal copbo, v arm eth slavmss Augustine Bede a 6 Quotation: TOB || b 8 Quotation: BJ TOB c 10 Quotation: BJ TOB https://accordance.bible/link/read/UBS5_Apparatus#3435 If you hover over the diamond in 1J 1:4, you will see the the relevant variant and mss. There is no such information in v 7, but it does have notes on v 4. I do not have the print version for comparison. FWIW, UBS4 does not have any apparatus notes for v 7 either. https://accordance.bible/link/read/UBS4_Apparatus#7043 Edited February 2 by Michael J. Bolesta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb B Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 Correct, we are seeing the same thing. So I am curious why the diamonds are found in vv. 7, 8, when nothing is in the apparatus explaining them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael J. Bolesta Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Robb B said: Correct, we are seeing the same thing. So I am curious why the diamonds are found in vv. 7, 8, when nothing is in the apparatus explaining them. Good question! It would be interesting to see the printed UBS5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Parker Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I had a printed UBS 5 but donated it to a student. I could ask him to check for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb B Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 So the diamond in v. 7 almost certainly is due to a questionable δὲ in the text. Some versions of the GNT have included it. It's strange, though, that the diamond is in UBS5 text but nothing about it in the apparatus. Still trying to figure out the end of v. 8. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb B Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 The last four words of v. 8 in Vaticanus and a few other manuscripts are in word order 3-4-1-2. So that has to be the diamond in v. 8. It would be great if someone could check the printed version of UBS5 and see if there are apparatus notes for vv. 7 and 8 that explain those diamonds, and, if so, they might be added to a corrected version of the apparatus in Accordance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Parker Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Asking the student I gave my UBS5 to and will see if he can look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Parker Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Here you go! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Cobb Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) You will find a much more comprehensive apparatus in the Nestle-Aland28. The UBS5 is designed to go deeper than the N-A28 in its citations of textual witnesses but focuses on fewer variants. The diamond is new to the USB5/N-A28 and, for the moment, is limited to the Catholic epistles, which explains why you didn't find it in your UBS4. It is pretty much designed to replace brackets but with more or less the same function. Here's the information for the variant you're looking at: ἐὰν ⬪ ⸆ ἐν τῷ φωτὶ περιπατῶμεν ⸆ ⬪ δε ℵ A B C P 5. 33. 81. 307. 436. 442. 642. 1175. 1448. 1611. 1735. 1852. 2344. 2492 Byz sy co; Cl ¦ txt Ψ 1243. 1739. 1881 l z✱ bomss; Cyr | Hope this helps a little! Edited February 3 by Donald Cobb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael J. Bolesta Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 This is what is in the appendix referenced on page 4* (Nathan's first photo) https://accordance.bible/link/read/UBS5_Apparatus#6663 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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