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How Do I Create an Accordance Verse Link in My Writing App?


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Hello,

 

Please tell me how do i create an Accordance text reference [verse] link, or any Accordance resource link in my writing app, so that my default/selected text/tool/resource is used when I click on the link in my writing app and it opens to that exact spot in my Accordance library?

 

For example, if I create a text reference link for John 14:27 to my default Accordance text in my writing app, and I click on this link in my writing app, Accordance will navigate to John 14:27 in my default/selected text.

 

I think I found this some years ago, but I forgot how to do it, and I just found out how to add a verse to my writing app, but that actually copies the verse itself into my writing app, and I want to click a link to an Accordance reference text/tool/resource in my writing app and have Accordance open to that verse/tool/resource.

 

I'm adding the idea of also doing this with tools and any other resource in my Accordance library, so I can try to learn how to do all of this in one go. So, I'm hoping to learn to do this with reference text links, tool links, and any other Accordance resource links.

 

The writing app I'm using is Bear, if that matters, but it could be any writing app, even TextEdit.

 

Thank you,

 

John

 

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On the Desktop, you can use the context menu (right click, tap with two fingers, etc. depending on platform) in the search box of a tab to copy a search URL. In a Text or Tool, you can use the context menu to copy a location URL for the verse or paragraph.

 

I recommend setting the URL style to accord:// in the Settings, under Export, at the bottom. That way it will directly open the resource in Accordance instead of going through the browser.

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28 minutes ago, jlm said:

On the Desktop, you can use the context menu (right click, tap with two fingers, etc. depending on platform) in the search box of a tab to copy a search URL. In a Text or Tool, you can use the context menu to copy a location URL for the verse or paragraph.

 

I recommend setting the URL style to accord:// in the Settings, under Export, at the bottom. That way it will directly open the resource in Accordance instead of going through the browser.

Hi jlm,

 

Thank you.

 

I am able to follow your instructions, yet with Accordance open in the background or quit all together it does navigate to my default Accordance text, but only to the most recent text tab, and not once has it navigated to the John 14:27 target.

 

First, what I did on macOS was type John 14:27 in a different tab.

Second, I right-clicked in the search field and selected the Copy As Resource Link command.

  • This produced the following string: ~[NKJVS, V, John 14:27]~
  • When I attempted to use this string in the Cmd + K link command in Bear it was not recognized for linking purposes.
  • So, I prepended your advice to the string and closed the spaces, which resulted in this modified string: accord://bible/link/read/NKJVS,V,John14:27
  • In addition, I did the exact same thing with the Copy as Search URL command.

Third, I tried right-clicking the actual John 14:27 reference in the text window, and selected Location URL from the Copy As command.

Somehow these three modified strings navigated to the most recent text tab, which in my case previously searched Is 53, so the tab with John 14:27 was not actually targeted.

 

I'm not sure how to resolve this, but for now my work-around is to (1) type the John 14:27 resource text in Bear, (2) create the modified link in Bear, (3) copy the John 14:27 resource text in Bear, (4) click on the modified link in Bear, (5) wait about one second for the Mac to navigate to Accordance, then (6) paste the John 14:27 resource text in the search field of one of the text tabs and press the Return key on my keyboard. Viola, la, la, la!

 

Thanks, jlm!

 

P.S. I'd be open to any additional ideas you have, if you think you may be able to resolve the remainder of this issue. By the way, I'm using Accordance 12, so the Export panel in Preferences doesn't have an option for the accord:// portion of the string, but both the Citation and the Bibliography panels have it. They both have the option to include accord:// location URL at the bottom of each panel. God bless you!

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28 minutes ago, Beloved John said:

Hi jlm,

 

Thank you.

 

I am able to follow your instructions, yet with Accordance open in the background or quit all together it does navigate to my default Accordance text, but only to the most recent text tab, and not once has it navigated to the John 14:27 target.

 

First, what I did on macOS was type John 14:27 in a different tab.

Second, I right-clicked in the search field and selected the Copy As Resource Link command.

  • This produced the following string: ~[NKJVS, V, John 14:27]~
  • When I attempted to use this string in the Cmd + K link command in Bear it was not recognized for linking purposes.
  • So, I prepended your advice to the string and closed the spaces, which resulted in this modified string: accord://bible/link/read/NKJVS,V,John14:27
  • In addition, I did the exact same thing with the Copy as Search URL command.

Third, I tried right-clicking the actual John 14:27 reference in the text window, and selected Location URL from the Copy As command.

Somehow these three modified strings navigated to the most recent text tab, which in my case previously searched Is 53, so the tab with John 14:27 was not actually targeted.

 

I'm not sure how to resolve this, but for now my work-around is to (1) type the John 14:27 resource text in Bear, (2) create the modified link in Bear, (3) copy the John 14:27 resource text in Bear, (4) click on the modified link in Bear, (5) wait about one second for the Mac to navigate to Accordance, then (6) paste the John 14:27 resource text in the search field of one of the text tabs and press the Return key on my keyboard. Viola, la, la, la!

 

Thanks, jlm!

 

P.S. I'd be open to any additional ideas you have, if you think you may be able to resolve the remainder of this issue. By the way, I'm using Accordance 12, so the Export panel in Preferences doesn't have an option for the accord:// portion of the string, but both the Citation and the Bibliography panels have it. They both have the option to include accord:// location URL at the bottom of each panel. God bless you!

1. Copy as Resource Link won’t work: those links are for use inside Accordance, like in a User Tool. You need to select Copy as Search URL. I believe that was available in Accordance 12.

 

2. If you decide to manually change the link format (you don’t have to), “accord://“ replaces “https://accordance.bible/link/“, so https://accordance.bible/link/read/NKJVS#John_14:27 becomes accord://read/NKJVS#John_14:27

 

3. Accordance tabs have a recycle button. If recycle is active on some tab, Accordance will use that tab to open the resource specified by the link. Recycle is on by default. So turn it off if you have a tab you want to keep on Is 53, for example.

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1 hour ago, jlm said:

1. Copy as Resource Link won’t work: those links are for use inside Accordance, like in a User Tool. You need to select Copy as Search URL. I believe that was available in Accordance 12.

 

It is available in Accordance 12, but for some reason it doesn't go to the John 14:27 target. It only goes to the most recent text tab used, which is not necessarily always the text tab for Is 53. It just happened to be that one when I tested this linking feature earlier today.

 

1 hour ago, jlm said:

 

2. If you decide to manually change the link format (you don’t have to), “accord://“ replaces “https://accordance.bible/link/“, so https://accordance.bible/link/read/NKJVS#John_14:27 becomes accord://read/NKJVS#John_14:27

 

I found that I did need to manually prepend the accord:// portion of the string to replace the https://accordance portion. For some reason this web URL portion is the default string, even though I selected the accord:// setting in both the Citation and Bibliography Preference panels.

 

1 hour ago, jlm said:

3. Accordance tabs have a recycle button. If recycle is active on some tab, Accordance will use that tab to open the resource specified by the link. Recycle is on by default. So turn it off if you have a tab you want to keep on Is 53, for example.

 

This recycle feature is new to me, so I'm not really understanding it, as I'm multitasking today. I did a quick read of the recycle portion of the help documentation, but I guess I'll need to slow down and read it again later on. Although, I did check each text tab and this recycle icon was greyed out on all of them. To no avail I did click the recycle icon on one of the text tabs to see if that would make a difference. The created link always takes me to the most recent text tab used whether or not the recycle tab is active on that tab or another tab. In addition, the John 14:27 target is never reached. Whichever tab is the most recent tab, it is the tab found when I click on the created link, and whatever that tab had as its most recent search string remains in place. John 14:27 is never found.

 

The thing is I'm trying to test the creation of a link in Bear to a verse of Scripture in Accordance on macOS using Accordance 12, knowing that in the future I will continue to use Accordance on my Mac, and the words or references I search for will change over time, as well as the number of tabs I use. So, during today's test I always click on a tab that does not have John 14:27 as the most recent search string, then I click on the link in Bear. Each time, no matter which way I create the link, the target ends up being the most recent text tab I clicked on in Accordance, and this is not the tab I used to search for John 14:27 because in the future it most certainly will not remain there.

 

Seeing how that is the case, I think if I tested this today by using the tab with the John 14:27 text search as the most recent tab I clicked on, then clicking the link in Bear, I would find myself with a false positive result, and I know this to be the case based on the way I described the approach I actually did use to test this linking feature today.

 

Thank you for your assistance, jlm. Before I received your advise I was not able to accomplish anything. But, due to your help I did find a work-around. I'm not sure why things are not working in a straight forward way, as you gave instruction. Nonetheless, I did find something that works, and that's what matters most to me. Again, thank you very much for your quick assistance today.

 

God bless you,

 

John

 

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9 hours ago, Beloved John said:

 

I found that I did need to manually prepend the accord:// portion of the string to replace the https://accordance portion. For some reason this web URL portion is the default string, even though I selected the accord:// setting in both the Citation and Bibliography Preference panels.


The problem is that you aren’t replacing enough of the link you copied: you have to remove all of “https://accordance.bible/link/“, not just “https://accordance”.

 

9 hours ago, Beloved John said:

The created link always takes me to the most recent text tab used whether or not the recycle tab is active on that tab or another tab. In addition, the John 14:27 target is never reached. Whichever tab is the most recent tab, it is the tab found when I click on the created link, and whatever that tab had as its most recent search string remains in place. John 14:27 is never found.

 

This is because there are extraneous elements in the link (“bible/link”). The link causes Accordance to open or to come to the foreground, but then it can’t understand what the link means, so it doesn’t do anything. 
 

Try it with a properly formatted link: accord://read/NKJVS#John_14:27

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2 hours ago, jlm said:


The problem is that you aren’t replacing enough of the link you copied: you have to remove all of “https://accordance.bible/link/“, not just “https://accordance”.

 

This is because there are extraneous elements in the link (“bible/link”). The link causes Accordance to open or to come to the foreground, but then it can’t understand what the link means, so it doesn’t do anything. 
 

Try it with a properly formatted link: accord://read/NKJVS#John_14:27

 

 

That fixes it. Although, for some reason when I use the Copy as Search URL command I don't get the # character as part of the URL, I get the ? character as follows: https://accordance.bible/link/read/NKJVS?John_14:27

 

Also, you can see it also shows the https portion of the URL, even though, as you can see below, I have the Citation panel in Accordance Preferences setup correctly, maybe. I think something is not working properly with Accordance on my end. In my experience with Accordance there is usually something that doesn't work quite right, even though the settings are configured the way they are, and I usually seek out support to help with it, and they've always been able to help me resolve it. The problems now are:

  1. The https URL still shows up.
  2. I get a space between the verse reference and the text when I use the OPT + CMD + A keyboard shortcut.
  3. The text is copied and pasted as a paragraph, yet I configured it to show up as separate verses, and these verses have spacing between them.

 

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Based on my Citation panel configuration, when I click on the Copy to Clipboard button the following is the pasted result:

 

 

 

John 14:26–27

 

26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

 

27 Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

https://accordance.bible/link/read/NKJVS#John_14:26

 

 

 

Wow, this is really screwy. I restarted my Mac to see if that would help Accordance. Prior to restart the reference line had a space above the text while the text was pasted in paragraph format.

 

Now, as you can see, there are spaces between each part of the citation, yet the Accordance Citation panel configuration is the same as it was before I restarted my Mac. Well, at least the text is no longer copied and pasted as a paragraph. But, there should not be any spacing in the entire pasted citation, if I configured the Accordance Citation panel accurately.

 

Furthermore, the citation URL should not use the https syntax, it should use the accord:// syntax, as per they Citation panel in Accordance Preferences. This is what my experience with Accordance is like from time to time. As I said, support always helps me to get it straight.

 

Lastly, because of the current configuration of the Citation panel in Accordance Preferences I expect the https syntax would not be used when I use the context menu Copy as Search URL command in the text tab search field. I expect it to use the accord:// syntax, but it doesn't. When I modify the pasted URL by using the correct syntax, even with the ? character instead of the # character it works as expected, both before and after I restarted my Mac. Do you think we should end this post, and just let me contact Accordance support, or would you like to continue working this out with me here? Either way is fine with me. Again, thank you for your assistance. I am making progress because things are working, even better than before. There is just something wrong with the way Accordance is behaving, I suppose, and this is why things are not working the way we both think they should work.

 

Thank you,

 

John

 

 

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Here is another progress update.

 

I changed the obvious Citation panel mistake in Accordance preferences to Show as Separate Verses, as opposed to Separate With Space. My bad.

 

Also, I unchecked the include accord:// location URL preference because it doesn't seem to work. Besides, I never wanted any URL included when I actually copied and pasted a text with its reference into Bear or any other other third party app on my Mac.

 

 

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As, a result, now I see what I want to see when I do copy and paste using the Get Verses OPT + CMD + A keyboard shortcut.

 

John 14:26–27

26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

27 Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

 

 

The remaining issue is the https syntax instead of the accord:// syntax when I want to link to a text reference from a third party app like Bear, and have it navigate me to that targeted text in Accordance. Again, the current work-around is to modify the URL so I replace the full https portion, as you taught me, with the accord:// portion, and now this works great!

 

accord://read/NKJVS?John_14:26-27

 

Instead of

 

https://accordance.bible/link/read/NKJVS?John_14:26-27

 

When I left the include accord:// location URL preference selected in the Accordance Preference Citation panel it gave me the following result:

 

https://accordance.bible/link/read/NKJVS?John_14:26-27

 

Also, you can see a screenshot below of my Accordance Preferences Export panel. I remember you told me to see the bottom of it to make sure I was using accord:// on export, but maybe this is not an available feature in Accordance 12. If not, maybe I'll upgrade to version 13. I think my current upgrade offer is less than $10 USD, but before I do that I am waiting for the developers to fix some issues I, and other users, are experiencing with the iOS app.

 

 

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Thanks again, jlm!

 

John

 

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The ? instead of # is correct: that’s what distinguishes a search URL from a location URL. When only one verse is specified, there’s no difference, but if you’ve searched for a range of verses, a phrase, a key number, etc., a search URL will let you easily reopen the search.


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Here are some examples copied on iOS with the little clipboard button to the left of the search field:

accord://read/NKJVS?John_14:25-28
 

accord://search/NKJVS?helper_<AND>_Spirit

 

accord://search/NKJVS?[KEY_G3875]


The other problems you’re having I leave to someone else to resolve.

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Got it.

 

Thank you, jlm! God bless you!

 

John

 

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Good job, JLM.

 

Truth is, there are multiple ways to accomplish what I think you're wanting, John.

But I'm guessing what JLM has worked with you on is what you want. Using an Accordance Search URL to embed that as a link to references in your documents in other apps will allow you to click and open up in Accordance.

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18 minutes ago, Joe Weaks said:

Good job, JLM.

 

Truth is, there are multiple ways to accomplish what I think you're wanting, John.

But I'm guessing what JLM has worked with you on is what you want. Using an Accordance Search URL to embed that as a link to references in your documents in other apps will allow you to click and open up in Accordance.

 

True, Joe Weeks.

 

The remaining issue is Accordance continues to default to the https URL syntax, instead of the accord:// syntax, especially when i explicitly select this preference in the Citation and Bibliography panels in Accordance Preferences. I'll see what Accordance support can do to help me with it, hopefully in the near future. Presently, I and other Accordance users are awaiting some fixes on Accordance iOS, and I prefer to address this at that time so I can contact support about all these issues at once.

 

Nonetheless, if you think you can help solve this syntax issue, please do, and thank you!

 

God bless you,

 

John

 

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As a side comment, although it seems to work in Bear, it does not work in all apps. I've played around with this in Libre Office and it works but in Softmaker TextMaker it doesn't. I think it does work in Word. I asked Softmaker about it and they told me they don't support that internal link setup.

 

You have given me some other ideas for apps to try so I appreciate that too.

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Not all apps will support adding hyperlinks to text. You can always just past in the whole URI and the select and then use an Open URL Service Shortcut on it.

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Thanks Joe. I know little about Service Shortcuts but I'll look into that. I assumed it had to do with the app itself so this could be very helpful.

 

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Shortcuts and Services allow you to do automated things. And easy to conceptualize one is you select some text in a document, they you can select a Shortcut or a Service that will do something with that text (treat it like a URL, reverse the capitalization, lookup in Dictionary, create a new TextEdit document with it, search google with it, etc.).
If you become interested in it, it some pretty awesome time savers for tasks you may do a lot.

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8 hours ago, Larry Wing said:

As a side comment, although it seems to work in Bear, it does not work in all apps. I've played around with this in Libre Office and it works but in Softmaker TextMaker it doesn't. I think it does work in Word. I asked Softmaker about it and they told me they don't support that internal link setup.

 

You have given me some other ideas for apps to try so I appreciate that too.

 

Glad to hear that, Larry Wing!

 

I am not familiar with the apps you mentioned.

 

I am a new user of Bear, still using their free one month trial. One thing I like about it, and I am new to it, too, is markdown.

 

Over the past few months I have evaluated a few apps, and I found Bear to have all but three things I want in an app. The biggest thing I want in a Bear type of app is iCloud syncing that actually works, and so far Bear is trouble-free in this area. Plus, the text looks great in markdown.

 

I don't know if you are familiar with it, but there was an app that was my go to app, but it was discontinued some years ago. It was called Circus Ponies' NoteBook. To this day, I have not found an app that has all of the features I used in NoteBook, and I have spent a good deal of time in search of one. In fact, I am currently looking into another app, but I am not sure it has all the features I want in both its macOS and iOS versions. It's called iA Writer. I am not sure if I will install their free trial version. But, wow, their text looks the best I have ever seen in an app. Their website and online help documentation look like someone just took a screenshot of text with a magic camera or something. It just pops!

 

Thanks for sharing. I hope those ideas work out for you, and God bless you!

 

John

 

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