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Problem with Mishna Kaufmann?


Donald Cobb

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Hello all,

 

Can someone tell me if this is a bug or something else? In the usual translations of Mishna Sanhedrin 10,1, this verse begins with "All Israël has a share in the age to come" or some such. This reflects the Hebrew text in the Eshkol edition. However, in the Kaufmann edition, this opening phrase is omitted, the first phrase corresponding to 10.1.c in the Neusner translation: "Who are those who have no share in the age to come". Is it just that the first lines were left out and need to be restituted? Or is there a textual issue here? Any help would be appreciated—especially a fix, if necessary! Thanks!

 

 

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I don't know enough to guess if this is an omission or a faithful transcription of the source.  This question is more scholarly than technical, and would probably be a better fit for the "Original Language" board: https://forums.accordancebible.com/forum/5-original-languages/

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11 hours ago, Silas Marrs said:

I don't know enough to guess if this is an omission or a faithful transcription of the source.  This question is more scholarly than technical, and would probably be a better fit for the "Original Language" board: https://forums.accordancebible.com/forum/5-original-languages/

 

Thank you for the reply Silas. As 10.1 (A) is a very well known quote, I'm thinking it's a problem with the Kaufmann version of the Mishnah, i.e., a problem with the module. But I'll put this in the language section. If there's anyone at Accordance who could help out here, it would be appreciated!

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I asked Dr. Abegg about this. Here's his reply:

 

There is no bug or error in Kaufman Codex (MISH-T). The manuscript itself is lacking the opening passage of Sanhedrin 10:1 that is found in printed editions (e.g. Eshkol). This Kaufmann Codex is now available among the manuscripts posted by the Oriental Collection of the Library of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences. Note the following pages:
 
Sanhedrin 9:1-6 (folio 151verso): http://kaufmann.mtak.hu/en/ms50/ms50-151v.htm
Sanhedrin 10:1-6 (folio 152recto): http://kaufmann.mtak.hu/en/ms50/ms50-152r.htm
 
As to a discussion of the variant, we are faced with the lack of a critical edition of the Mishna. I checked my own library and concluded that a discussion of this particular issue may be difficult to find.  

 

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Many thanks for following up on this Mark! And thank you for passing along Martin Abegg's message. This is a great help! It's good to know that the manuscripts can be consulted online. One more site to bookmark... 🙂

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Thanks for passing this on Mark!

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