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I just discovered something that I want to share with everyone. 

 

I am new to this so if I am off, I look forward to a discussion or help. 

 

We know that Linux is not a major plan right now, if at all (probably web browser version first). 

 

However, I am trying out, on my laptop, a work around. 

 

I removed Windows off my laptop and installed Linux Mint. 

 

Then I installed a VM titled Virtual Box and from there installed my backup copy of MS Word into a sandbox. 

 

I put on a second screen and now have access to the Accordance and my Word document. 

 

I can seamlessly go from the Host to the VM and back without missing anything. The VM, with the network shut down will keep it isolated and the Accordance will work. Turn on Network only to get updates and use it for Linux! 

 

Thoughts? 

 

ETA: The word document is actually LibreOffice and runs on the Mint side while the Accordance side is still sandboxed. 

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Using some kind of virtual machine install is probably the best Linux + Accordance solution for now. 

 

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1 minute ago, R. Mansfield said:

Using some kind of virtual machine install is probably the best Linux + Accordance solution for now. 

 

Thank you. My concern was whether I could go between Mint and Windows and back or do I have to shut down one to open the other. 

 

Knowing now I can bounce back and forth and still maintain the strength of Linux and have Accordance and then just not run the VM when I don't want or need it...I am pretty happy about that for right now. 

 

Of course there is a lot about VM's I am unsure about so I am taking it one step at a time. 

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Thanks for the info regardless, and please keep us up to date. While there's not currently enough Accordance users who also run Linux for us to justify a specific Linux build, there is enough interest for your posts to help others.

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5 minutes ago, R. Mansfield said:

Thanks for the info regardless, and please keep us up to date. While there's not currently enough Accordance users who also run Linux for us to justify a specific Linux build, there is enough interest for your posts to help others.

You're welcome and of course! I am always glad to help. 

 

I do believe, if the desire, like mine, is to shut down the network on the VM, then subscribe to the update forum sub thread so you know when to turn back on the network. 

 

If I run across something else, I will keep posting. 

 

The only other thing, I can think of is that two screens make it so much easier to do this and also there are some views that make the screen blurry vs not. You may have to play with the settings and the view. Right now mine is set at full screen with the bottom control panel showing (not sure what that is called). 

 

ETA: Yes, I did read the other Linux threads and while I would love a stand alone Linux, this, as you said, may be the best for right now. 

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@Pastor Jonathan, in VirtualBox, are you running Windows? If so, then for it to be a valid solution for the rest of us, we still would need a valid license to run Windows, even in a VM. Most of us who are looking for a LInux solution are looking for one free of the licensing restriction. Running a licensed copy of Windows in a virtual machine in 'seamless mode' does work, but it doesn't solve the biggest stumbling block most of us have in moving completely to Linux. 

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1 minute ago, ScottDF said:

@Pastor Jonathan, in VirtualBox, are you running Windows? If so, then for it to be a valid solution for the rest of us, we still would need a valid license to run Windows, even in a VM. Most of us who are looking for a LInux solution are looking for one free of the licensing restriction. Running a licensed copy of Windows in a virtual machine in 'seamless mode' does work, but it doesn't solve the biggest stumbling block most of us have in moving completely to Linux. 

Agree. Yes. I am using MS 10. 

 

That would be an issue. I think my focus was to find a way to maintain the integrity of Linux and its privacy and yet still have Accordance. 

 

If you have a MS computer, you already have the Product #, all I did was just install using my old product #. So no money went to MS. You are using what you already have. 

 

I do understand though. 

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Got it. If that works for you, great. But, if you run Windows, even in a VM, the privacy matters are still there, of course, not in the other activities you do on the computer, but in the portion of activities that involve the operations within the VM. But as I mentioned, if that is a workable solution for you, providing the degree of privacy you require, very cool. 

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17 minutes ago, ScottDF said:

Got it. If that works for you, great. But, if you run Windows, even in a VM, the privacy matters are still there, of course, not in the other activities you do on the computer, but in the portion of activities that involve the operations within the VM. But as I mentioned, if that is a workable solution for you, providing the degree of privacy you require, very cool. 

Well, that is why I am posting this. I don't know what is and is not possible, or what can and can not happen in a VM. I am hoping to also learn as I go through this. 

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I was doing some reading. Do you have to register MS on a Virtual Machine? I did, but I am wondering now if I needed to. I read somewhere you didn't have to. 

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The nature of the internet is that you can read virtually any position. But the simple fact of the matter is that Windows is an operating system that requires a license. Huge numbers of server farms run with only virtual machines. Every one of those virtual machines Microsoft requires a license from.

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15 minutes ago, ScottDF said:

The nature of the internet is that you can read virtually any position. But the simple fact of the matter is that Windows is an operating system that requires a license. Huge numbers of server farms run with only virtual machines. Every one of those virtual machines Microsoft requires a license from.

Ok. Thanks. 

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As a continued work through, If you have a high number of volumes and resources, make sure you leave plenty of time to download. I have over 200 and I have only been able to get through around 120ish all this time so far. 

 

Now, granted, my computer I am working off of is older and the processor may not be the fastest, but just a heads up that this is not a two or three minute process. 

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For those of us who do not want to have any dealings with Microsoft due to privacy and security concerns, are there any other options for using Accordance with Linux?  I have just made the switch to Linux Mint.

 

 

Someone said in this forum that Accordance 10.4.5 works in Wine, but not 12 so much. I don't own 10, unfortunately. Accordance 12 and 13 are in my products page. 

 

Will it be possible to get version 10 somehow if the versions I have do not work?

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Sadly,no. I use Linux for reasons other than a dislike of Microsoft, but have not found anything than runs in anything close to satisfactory fashion.

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17 minutes ago, Pat Smith said:

Will it be possible to get version 10 somehow if the versions I have do not work?

 

You can still download v. 10. It's a bit of a step back, though. I love Linux, but the reason it's never been my main OS is that I have a handful of essential programs that just won't work in it. 

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You can still download v. 10. It's a bit of a step back, though. I love Linux, but the reason it's never been my main OS is that I have a handful of essential programs that just won't work in it. 

I read on this forum that, while people were able to download v10, they were not able to use it because it wasn't in their products page. Is that an issue anymore?

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8 minutes ago, Pat Smith said:

I read on this forum that, while people were able to download v10, they were not able to use it because it wasn't in their products page. Is that an issue anymore?

 

That I don't know. I imagine you could have sales add it to your account if it's not there. 

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1 minute ago, R. Mansfield said:

 

That I don't know. I imagine you could have sales add it to your account if it's not there. 

I just now tried v10, but my account authentication failed because v10 isn't in my products page. Earlier, I had already tried opening a chat to ask if v10 could be added to my account. They said they didn't have the authorization to do that. Is there a number I can call to talk directly to sales?

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35 minutes ago, Pat Smith said:

Is there a number I can call to talk directly to sales?

 

(407) 339-5855. Feel free to drop my name.

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