Wes Allen Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I would be ecstatic if Accordance would dump dropbox syncing. It worked for a bit, but it's a broken system. Here's my experience today...I just lost all the verse notes I created for this sermon because my Mac had gotten disconnected from Dropbox for some reason. So I synced, and a window popped up about reloading my session, but below it I saw the “which file to keep” dialog, which I couldn’t access with the “reload session dialog” up. So I cancelled reload session, and the comparison dialog vanished, and the notes file from my ipad became the default and erased my notes. Here's the thing, because I work with computers and deal with issues like this with some frequency I understand I hit this issue because I didn't act the way the program expected me to act. I recognize that if I’d reloaded the session I would have probably been been able to use the comparison dialog and get my proper notes to sync. I'm not furious, just a little disappointed (both with myself for not paying enough attention and with the current mess of a syncing system. But I and can’t imagine the frustration “normal” people have with issues like this. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I just never used it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielamari Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I think the feature is built on Dropbox is old, given the fact that the way iPadOS handles storage devices and services is very different now. I personally never liked Dropbox and I welcome any push for removing any Dropbox centric feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketisdell Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 So far I have not had problems with Dropbox but I am working on a windows platform. I am all for adding other options i.e. google drive, one drive, etc... but I think removing a method that is already supported would be a mistake. Note: bugs that cause a loss of data should be identified and fixed. In the very worst case a sync issue should leave a backup that can manually put back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanHuber Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I use the Dropbox sync. I'm not opposed to replacing it with some other method, but there needs to be something more than just the Wi-Fi sync. (Fwiw, I keep a couple of manual backups of the synced files so Dropbox isn't my only copy.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlm Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 There are often calls to replace Dropbox with something else, usually because of privacy concerns. But what would replace it? If Oak Tree built their own system, they would have to do the server side too, which is another place the system could have bugs. iCloud makes syncing simpler, but is hard to deploy to Windows and Android. Automattic used to offer the sync engine behind Simplenote to developers, but I don't see it on their website any more. Another file syncing system like Dropbox would mean writing the same sort of syncing code Accordance has now, and would probably wind up having similar bugs. If the goal is to have something that works well, fixing the existing implementation may be the best way forward. Sync seems to be hard to get right. The iOS app Editorial, despite being the work of an unusually capable programmer, doesn't deal well with not having a constant good connection: it deletes my files or has sync conflicts with itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSchrock Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Yes! This has been requested often and I would love to see Accordance move away from Dropbox. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Meiklejohn Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I don't sync my Accordance work, but I would if it used iCloud. The vast majority of my apps use iCloud to sync... it is seamless and fast. At the very least I would love to have the option to sync with iCloud. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinPurcell Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 This is one of the two greatest weaknesses of Accordance compared to the competition. Other is notes, which is primarily of sync issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukfraser Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I don't sync my Accordance work, but I would if it used iCloud. The vast majority of my apps use iCloud to sync... it is seamless and fast. At the very least I would love to have the option to sync with iCloud. Especially coupled with the ability to create and edit stacks on an ipad. Currently i use apple's notes that comes with ios. And like paul, dont sync accordance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diatheke76 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I synced my iPhone to Accordance to have my Papers available on my phone and it removed all my resources. I literally had to reinstall every single one of them. As for dropbox, I never used it and don’t want to. It might mess something up. I’m not taking any chances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Z Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Dropbox allows users to restore a previous version or a deleted file. It has saved me from a few accidental loss of files. I love to have Dropbox integration. But adding other syncing options are welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinPurcell Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Let me add to this not just the system of syncing needs a more reliable replacement, but what is synced needs to grow. I’d like to log into my two computers and have my Library order of books sync too. Maybe that could get added to Dropbox. It’s annoying to have to reorder books on multiple systems. You have to have both computers there to get them in the same order. Then if you have to reinstall you have to do it all over again. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dataduffy Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I don't sync my Accordance work, but I would if it used iCloud. The vast majority of my apps use iCloud to sync... it is seamless and fast. At the very least I would love to have the option to sync with iCloud. I would welcome iCloud as an alternative sync. There are regions where Dropbox is not available. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Mansfield Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I would welcome iCloud as an alternative sync. There are regions where Dropbox is not available. The issue against using iCloud has to do with Accordance being on Windows & Android in addition to macOS and iOS/iPadOS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddarling Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Yes, please use a different method for syncing. I use my iMac for a lot of my Accordance use, but then I also use my MacBook Air. Then I use my iPad to preach my sermon that I wrote in Papers. I have lost so many sermons because I thought it had synced and it didn't. I would like a different cloud solution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhebert Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 On 10/2/2020 at 2:30 PM, R. Mansfield said: The issue against using iCloud has to do with Accordance being on Windows & Android in addition to macOS and iOS/iPadOS. Interesting. Since Accordance started and principally caters to the Mac world, why wouldn't iCloud be the default, and any other sync/storage methods be included as options?? I say, "Get some programmers cracking on this issue!." Really needs to be working with iCloud. I think that's where most of the user base lives anyway - Yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Mansfield Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, mhebert said: Interesting. Since Accordance started and principally caters to the Mac world, why wouldn't iCloud be the default, and any other sync/storage methods be included as options?? I say, "Get some programmers cracking on this issue!." Really needs to be working with iCloud. I think that's where most of the user base lives anyway - Yes? The issue is that we do not principally cater to macOS. The day of Accordance focusing primarily on the Mac is nearly a decade gone by. Having said that, we are looking into other syncing technologies, but we would not use a strategy that would work exceptionally well on one platform and marginalize the other ones. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcdeacon Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I, for one, am pleased that Oak Tree is looking into other syncing technologies. I am NOT a Dropbox fan. Bob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhebert Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 15 hours ago, R. Mansfield said: The issue is that we do not principally cater to macOS. The day of Accordance focusing primarily on the Mac is nearly a decade gone by. Having said that, we are looking into other syncing technologies, but we would not use a strategy that would work exceptionally well on one platform and marginalize the other ones. Totally understandable. I just believe in options. Options are a good thing when done well. I am sure you all will get the syncing stuff figured out. BTW -- Amazing software overall. I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Smith Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I've said this elsewhere in the past, but since it came up again today, I'll say it again. Dropbox sync is terrible. Yes, it works. Sometimes. And when it works, it works well. But when it goes wrong, it goes so, so wrong. Not worth it. I've quit dropbox entirely and use wifi sync. As bad as wifi sync is, at this point it's still better than dropbox. I understand wanting to keep the sync open for non Mac users also. Would it be possible to simply let iCloud be one of the sync options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Smith Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) Whoa. Just noticed I'm now a new user with only one post. I guess all the old stuff is gone? Hmm. Edited February 24, 2021 by A. Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Mansfield Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Just now, Anthony Smith said: I understand wanting to keep the sync open for non Mac users also. Would it be possible to simply let iCloud be one of the sync options? It becomes an issue of supporting multiple syncing options--which is not only a support issue but also extra development and added code to the software. And it creates a better experience for some users over others. Not really a good place to be. A better solution would be to have one really good syncing method that works for every platform and syncs more than what is currently synced. Stay tuned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Mansfield Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Anthony Smith said: Whoa. Just noticed I'm now a new user with only one post. I guess all the old stuff is gone? Hmm. DM me with info on your old account, and I can merge them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Meiklejohn Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Anthony Smith said: Whoa. Just noticed I'm now a new user with only one post. I guess all the old stuff is gone? Hmm. No, the admin team can reset your account. See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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