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Fabian

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Something like this:

 

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/113893/755223.aspx

 

Click on a word in a morphology tagged Bible, right click "Morphology Chart" and you get a full Chart of all variations which are tagged.

 

I know the information is available in Accordance, but at the moment no filter to see them in a Chart.

 

Greetings

 

Fabian

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+10 :)

The very best thing would be individual charts that could be called up through the contextual menu.

The next best would be a tagged reference to principal charts. This is a feature in bibleworks which is a fine solution.

Morten

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+1

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As a reminder: It is requested here also.

 

In BW it is called "Forms" in the Analysis Window.

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Greetings

 

Fabian 

 

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+1000

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+ 1. I used this feature a lot in BW. It's especially helpful if you're trying to go beyond just reading the texts (i.e., building a passive knowledge) and are trying to work towards an oral or written capability (active knowledge).

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At present, I use the Research tab on Greek texts to find attested forms that I am trying to check spelling of when writing. With enough Greek texts behind it, it is often enough. But a morph chart would help too.

 

Thx

D

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+1

 

Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek

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That is a tall order. Essentially re-tagging everything and then adding a further code loop on top of that with individual functionality per word. It would be awesome but what a task I would imagine

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I don't see the need for a retag. The words are already tagged with lex forms. All this requires is to trigger the search from a context menu option and some display work. Acc can already answer the question from the existing tagging unless I'm missing something.

 

Thx

D

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That is a tall order. Essentially re-tagging everything and then adding a further code loop on top of that with individual functionality per word. It would be awesome but what a task I would imagine

 

I'm not so sure. In BW, this was implemented as a new feature in their last iteration. There, I think it was more a question of doing an inflected search and putting it together with the tagging info. BW was a small company, and I couldn't imagine them going back and re-tagging their OT and NT texts.

 

This is what it looked like in BW (right-most screen):

 

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Very nice as the results were collated immediately upon mousing over a word!

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I'm not so sure. In BW, this was implemented as a new feature in their last iteration. There, I think it was more a question of doing an inflected search and putting it together with the tagging info. BW was a small company, and I couldn't imagine them going back and re-tagging their OT and NT texts.

 

This is what it looked like in BW (right-most screen):

 

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Very nice as the results were collated immediately upon mousing over a word!

 

I don't see the need for a retag. The words are already tagged with lex forms. All this requires is to trigger the search from a context menu option and some display work. Acc can already answer the question from the existing tagging unless I'm missing something.

 

Thx

D

Sounds easier than I assumed then- *wipes brow and turns face towards the state of Florida*

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Out of curiosity, for all of those "+1"ing this, what is the advantage of these charts or 'Forms' table over our analysis?  By simply searching for the lemma and pulling up Analysis, with some simple customization I can get what seems to be the exact same information.  Is the advantage just the fewer steps and more 2D columned display?

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Simplicity like the Live-Click. And much faster. In Accordance is all a Search, but this makes a lot slower than it can be.

 

I was in a conversation with a friend about translating a word and how the related words are konjugiert. There was no time to do every time a search. So we opened BW for it. And the visual effects especial of Logos are übersichtlicher also the one from BW.

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I assumed it was just the fewer steps.

 

But I also initially thought that all possible forms, rather than all attested in the current text, was what was wanted, which would be a bunch more work. But this just seems like a workflow optimization.

 

Thx

D

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Is the advantage just the fewer steps and more 2D columned display?

 

Yes.  :D

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