kpang808 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Hey folks, I was just curious if anyone has taken the biblical languages course track through biblemesh.com? I am debating if I should go this route or not. As it seems it may be a good route for someone like me wanting to learn the original languages of Hebrew and Greek. It is equivalent to two years in both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpang808 Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 bump...any help or advice on learning original languages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Maybe this could be interesting too: http://languages.huji.ac.ilSo I know you get then academic credits and a degree from this Uni. Greetings Fabian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpang808 Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 Thanks for the reply Fabian, I will check out that link! The one on biblemesh has an accreditation credit too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew_A Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I got a demo of their Greek vocab and did not like it. They used a pronunciation that was outside both Erasmian (what most seminaries historically still use) and modern Greek. (That was me though)... While you can do online I would highly recommend a classroom environment for languages. Having the ability to ask questions and hear various perspectives is so valuable. Also, it helps to ensure you are doing the work (especially vocab) But modern life after all does not allow for that easily in all places. Here are some resources baring any local resources. I would check Bill Mounce's website for Greek. Those lectures and his texts are excellent. I think this is on biblemesh but seems cheaper to go direct. https://billmounce.com/product/basics-biblical-greek-lectures Similar but taught in a classroom and audio only: https://www.biblicaltraining.org/biblical-greek/william-mounce Another resource and very solid teaching: https://dailydoseofgreek.com/learn-biblical-greek/ For Hebrew, if you want to use Ross's text check out http://animatedhebrew.com/oldsite/lectures/index.html or if you want to stay with Zondervan Miles Van Pelt's lectures are here. https://vimeo.com/ondemand/bbh I believe these grammar's are available within accordance. Start there and then plan for year two. Worth the voyage! go for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpang808 Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 Hey thanks for the reply. I did the first steps on Biblemesh recently and actually liked it. They did include how to pronounce in Erasmian but yes the vocabulary was a modern pronunciation which some think is more accurate but I'm not entirely sure. I also sampled the Mounce but it was more of memorizing rather than inductive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpang808 Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 Zondervan also has a course through biblemesh that teaches one year of Greek and Hebrew and Aramaic as well. Only have access for two years. Biblemesh gives access for ten years and is comparable to two years of Greek and two years of Hebrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hunt Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Checkout iTunes University. They also have a number of biblical language courses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpang808 Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 Thanks for the tip Michael! I will check it out for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Fyfe Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I get my ministry apprentices to use this one for learning basic Hebrew: http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/7_home.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Allison Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Check out this site: http://www.animatedhebrew.com/oldsite/index.html Under the "Lectures" category, they have about 35 hours of video covering the first 40 chapters in Allen P. Ross' "Introducing Biblical Hebrew". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpang808 Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share Posted August 26, 2017 I get my ministry apprentices to use this one for learning basic Hebrew: http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/7_home.html Thank you for the link! Check out this site: http://www.animatedhebrew.com/oldsite/index.html Under the "Lectures" category, they have about 35 hours of video covering the first 40 chapters in Allen P. Ross' "Introducing Biblical Hebrew". Thank you for the link!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hunt Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 This site also has some good resources https://biblicalgreek.org/ Take a look at the prepositions cartoon at https://biblicalgreek.org/grammar/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ιακοβ Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I think it depends on what your goal is. If you are really serious, there are summer programs, and even a one year program where you can go to Israel and only speak the language for the entire year. https://www.biblicallanguagecenter.com/immersion-courses/summer-2017-biblical-hebrew-israel/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 FYI BLC are starting online interactive teaching (what they call Live Video classes) as well. ThxD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpang808 Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 This site also has some good resources https://biblicalgreek.org/ Take a look at the prepositions cartoon at https://biblicalgreek.org/grammar/ Thanks for the heads up! I think it depends on what your goal is. If you are really serious, there are summer programs, and even a one year program where you can go to Israel and only speak the language for the entire year. https://www.biblicallanguagecenter.com/immersion-courses/summer-2017-biblical-hebrew-israel/ Thanks for the info! I am serious about learning. Bible mesh has a 25% off sale and did a lot more research on their teachers and material. Seems legit! FYI BLC are starting online interactive teaching (what they call Live Video classes) as well. Thx D Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukfraser Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) where you can go to Israel and only speak the language for the entire year.And go to the great klezma eventsAs well as explore this beautiful country ;o) Edited August 31, 2017 by ukfraser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpang808 Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 And go to the great klezma events As well as explore this beautiful country ;o) That would be cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian K. Mitchell Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Greetings Keithp, If you have time, you are a self-motivated student, you like the grammar-translation approach to learning languages, and you do not care about college credit you can get the equivalent of two years of seminar Biblical Hebrew for FREE at the links below: OT 503 Hebrew Grammar I (Full first Semester) http://www.theologicalresources.org/the-masters-seminary/17-hebrew-grammar-i/37/ OT 504 Hebrew II (Full Second Semester) http://www.theologicalresources.org/the-masters-seminary/18-hebrew-grammar-ii/11/ If you are interested in Modern Greek and Modern Hebrew there is a very nice free app called duolingo: https://www.duolingo.com/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpang808 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 Greetings Keithp, If you have time, you are a self-motivated student, you like the grammar-translation approach to learning languages, and you do not care about college credit you can get the equivalent of two years of seminar Biblical Hebrew for FREE at the links below: OT 503 Hebrew Grammar I (Full first Semester) http://www.theologicalresources.org/the-masters-seminary/17-hebrew-grammar-i/37/ OT 504 Hebrew II (Full Second Semester) http://www.theologicalresources.org/the-masters-seminary/18-hebrew-grammar-ii/11/ If you are interested in Modern Greek and Modern Hebrew there is a very nice free app called duolingo: https://www.duolingo.com/ Awesome! Thank you for the heads up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian K. Mitchell Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) Hey folks, I was just curious if anyone has taken the biblical languages course track through biblemesh.com? I haven't taken that course, but I have heard about it before. It takes a very inductive and innovative approach to learning Hebrew through reading and translation exercises I believe (both Hebrew to English and English to Hebrew). Biblemesh seems to offer their courses at a decent price actually out of the online for credit options it seems to be the cheapest. BibleMesh Webinar: "Hebrew Composition in BibleMesh Quizzes and Tests" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2ZNLQnV7Ls Live Demo of BibleMesh Biblical Languages Courses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvccqr7mfNo I think BibleMesh is to be praised for attempting to innovate the grammar-translation approach to language pedagogy and make it a lot more inductive, that is a very good thing! The grammar-translation method is used almost exclusively in teaching so called dead languages and is also used in middle schools in Japan as a means to teach modern English. A student who is adept at learning from such an approach will come away with a lot of grammatical/syntatical knowledge about his/her target language but... I am not a fan of using this approach exclusively or in isolation (I think it has some good points but should be combined with other approaches). Both, as a language learner and as an EFL instructor I tend to favor approaches to language acquisition like language immersion, Karshen's natural approach, and the Direct method, and then using the grammar-translation method to review or strength knowledge. Or, using the grammar translation method first, but supplementing it with other activities and direct language practice in the target language. The above is just my two cents or yen on the matter. Edited September 3, 2017 by Brian K. Mitchell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpang808 Posted September 4, 2017 Author Share Posted September 4, 2017 Thanks for the input! Any others have experience teaching or learning Hebrew and Greek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarcher Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Personal opinion but I'd tackle Greek first. It has the added benefit of the LXX and Greek AF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpang808 Posted September 5, 2017 Author Share Posted September 5, 2017 Personal opinion but I'd tackle Greek first. It has the added benefit of the LXX and Greek AF. Great tip! Thank you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian K. Mitchell Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 http://www.conversationalkoine.com/ Part of the philosophy of CKI, which is grounded in solid language-learning theory, is that when paired with hearing, speaking is not just a quick tool to help learners "memorize," but rather, a tried-and-true approach that helps them "internalize" a language. That, by the way, makes it much more fun than the rote memorization of vocab words! When one takes this kind of approach, languages come alive! At CKI we strive to bring languages to life for learners, which is part of the reason we're fond of saying, at CKI "We Are Living Language!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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