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There didnt seem to be anything after sept 2015. Is this a new decimal form of 10 months in year? (Dec-sept)

 

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Nothing active for groups of which I'm aware. But something for 2017?

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Sounds good.

Just been on a course and heavily promoted accordance so got a few new users

 

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What was the course Fraser? Who was it with?

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We read 2533 verses in about 9 months. Actually the schedule went almost to the end of November so say 10.5 months

After that we were all worn out :)

 

Seriously though that gives you an idea of the read rate - about 8 verses a day - and it was every day.

 

I'd argue for a lower read rate so it wouldn't interfere with my Hebrew work which requires time also. But hey that's me.

 

So some ideas :

 

1. According to Acc the Apostolic Fathers have about 2000 verses. That might be doable in about 6-8 verses a day over a similar period. I'm not familiar with the AF beyond the Didache though so I don't know. Stats. show it's a ton more words though, 66264 versus 42300. Hmmm..... ok. If you exclude the Shepherd of Hermas you would get similar numbers but that's a text people might really want to read. You could do the Shepherd, 1 and 2 Clem and the Didache I guess.

 

So AF would be one choice.

 

2. You could lay in a two year plan to do the Torah in Greek. Perhaps a bit ambitious, but could obviously be broken up.

 

3. One thought for the gluttons for punishment would be a parallel Greek/Hebrew reading the same thing in the MT and the LXX each week. You could do Genesis this way for example which would be interesting. Given the state of my Hebrew this would have to count as mildly insane, but no pain no gain as they say. Or Exodus. I'm doing Exodus currently in LXX and am about to start on the tabernacle plans in Hebrew soon, so that would suit me.

 

 

Other thoughts ?

 

thx

D

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All good thoughts, Daniel. One other option--a bit unconventional compared to the other things we've done--would be to select a really small portion of text and focus more on memory than reading. This could really boost Greek comprehension, especially with morphology, syntax, vocal, etc. Something like a verse a day could be fun.

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I think it might also be fun to read along with (or rather to read the same passage that) a living community is also currently reading through sections of the BIble in Greek. For example:

 

 

The Lectionary of the Greek Orthodox Church

http://www.bombaxo.com/greek.html

 

 

Evangelion (Gospel Book for Liturgical use in the Orthodox Church)

http://www.omhksea.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Greek_Evangelion-Synaxarion.pdf

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Hey ya,

 

  @Abram, I was wondering what verses might be chosen, or how they might be chosen for memorization, I've done a little of this in Hebrew and Greek, but not a verse a day so much as committing some chunk to memory, like the Lord's Prayer or the שְׁמַ֖ע from Deuteronomy. So for that I was wondering if a weekly schedule might be better with slightly larger chunks. I then thought perhaps the material in the Devotions on the Greek New Testament (Devotions on GNT), J. Scott Duvall and Verlyn D. Verbrugge, editors might be a place to start. I'm sure there would be other ideas for source material for memory too.

 

  @Brian, This is really worth doing I agree. I actually setup a user tool for the Roman Missal (Sunday readings and holy days, not daily) so that I could use the Greek text for the Mass. I hope to get good enough at Hebrew to use it for the OT but right now I use the LXX. I've not looked at the Orthodox lectionary but it should be possible to set up a similar tool to the one I have for the Roman Missal, but depending upon what form it's in it can be a bit of work to set up. Given the amount of material involved perhaps even just the weekly reading material would be enough, divided up over 5 days or some such thing.

 

  Wo! I just noticed the first link uses the data from the OSB. I didn't realize it had the lectionary in it. In Accordance they are already linked properly in the OSB module. That makes it simple. All you need then is the calendar. Well there is a note concerning issues with variations in the exact readings used on any date and so on. A little work might have to be done with it if one wanted to follow very closely.

 

  EDIT : Oh and one more thing - the lectionary cycle begins in September 1 which would mean if we wanted to align with the regular schedule for the Orthodox Church AND take it from the beginning you have to start in three weeks from now. Eeek !

 

Thx

D
 

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Has anyone ever heard of the following?

 

(1) Light on the Path/ Light Auf Dem Weg: Daily Scripture Readings in Hebrew and Greek  ISBN-10: 0801008220

 

(2) More Light on the Path: Daily Scripture Readings in Hebrew and Greek    ISBN-10: 0801021650
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Had another thought : we could do selections based on grammatical characteristics to give practice in specific forms. It would take more time to set up but might be helpful. For example, the Psalms had a lot of optative in it. We could perhaps select verses based on presence of conditionals, or participial constructions.

 

Brian - I haven't seen the above but they look interesting. I was initially puzzled by Light Auf dem Weg, but it seems that's how they rendered it in the English edition of the book.

 

Thx

D

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I remember those optatives! That might have been right around the time I had to bow out of Greek Psalms....

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Ok, I'm starting to think Luke or Hebrews for more complex Greek. Perhaps Luke followed by Hebrews.

 

Thx

D

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2Cor is some of the most “classical” Greek in the NT and is in many ways quite challenging for the more practiced koine reader. Hebrews is fun. Luke is pretty straightforward but will test your vocab (as will most narrative). Have a scan of 2 Cor though and see what you think.

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Ok so here's a thought. How about a graduated Luke, Hebrews, 2 Corinthians collection ? I ran a few numbers and it would be pretty easy to do these three in a year, even taking Sundays off :

 

Total Verses 1711

Verses per day 7

Days 244.43

Days/wk 6

Weeks 40.74

Months (approx)  9.40

 

 

Thoughts ?

 

Thx

D

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I'm currently reading as much of the GNT as I can--so I'll be happy to observe and jump in to any comments here if folks move forward on a plan together, but I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to commit to anything more formal per se. 

 

I did recently read through Luke and found the vocabulary difficult. Hebrews is also tough but rewarding. I'm starting 2 Corinthians today.

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Hi ya,

 

  I just submitted a workspace and user tool to the exchange which does the Luke, Hebrews and 2 Corinthians in about 10 months starting Jan 1 2017. I've set it up against the GNT-EPT but that can of course be switched to whatever anyone prefers. Hopefully it will be available in a few days. I'm going to give that a go next year I think.

 

Thx

D

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Definitely could be a case of more than I can chew :)

Let me know if you find any issues with the tool.

 

Thx

D

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Definitely could be a case of more than I can chew :)

Let me know if you find any issues with the tool.

 

Thx

D

I'll have to get it posted first! Edited by Ken Simpson
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Yea, the vocab for Luke 1:1 alone, indicates to me that perhaps I'm not ready for that yet—not at 7 verses per day on top of my other studies anyway.

 

Is there anyone else who might be interested in a simpler reading plan for those of us who are not quite there yet :D

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